Post by PrisonerOfHope on Jul 20, 2011 17:16:49 GMT -5
What I find most interesting is that the "greatest risk to power grid/satellites" ends right around the Feast of Trumpets. Now IF there's anything to the Feast of Trumpets rapture (it might be sooner, or possibly later), all the power and communications could be out. Add that to the three days of darkness the Earth is supposed to be encompassed in at the same time because of Elenin, and nobody will be able to see much of anything, and certainly not be able to communicate with anybody who's not right at home with them. I mean, we live in a world where people are so dependent upon cell phones and computers that parents phone or text their kids upstairs to call them down to dinner! So it's possible that tens of millions could go missing, and they disappearance won't be noticed for days or even weeks. Any thoughts?
This is so freaking cool I am planning right now to be at my parents house when this happens so we can get caught up together...if all else fails and it is not the rapture we will be safe together
I hope like heck we'll be out of here before then.
Philippians 3:20-21 “But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.”
Post by PrisonerOfHope on Aug 1, 2011 15:02:21 GMT -5
I was talking to a friend about this last night. If Elenin does indeed have a big effect on the earth and provides three days of darkness, it's likely that all communications satellites will cease functioning, and that utilities (like electricity) may also go out. That would be the perfect time for Jesus to come and get us - no one would know where we went, they wouldn't see us go, they couldn't call friends or loved ones to see where they are....and probably when the darkness ended, there will be more UFO sightings than ever before.
Abe is our "expert" on things like this; maybe he'll chime in - but I find it odd that the world's governments aren't reassuring everyone that there's nothing to this....instead they're preparing for things like a "Zombie Apocalypse."
Wow I never thought of it that way, POH. I've been thinking about this since yesterday and it really bothers me. I work in DC and if this were to happen when I'm at work, and we aren't Raptured out of here by then, I will be toast. I remember how hectic it was during 9/11 and I was lucky that my dad was still working then so I could get a ride home with him. This thing would be 100,000 times worse as no one would be able to get out of the city. Ugh! I can't think of a worse case scenario! And on top of that, my home is over 2 hours away! And I have no clue if my hearing aids would be effected (probably) so I would be totally deaf. Now if we were Raptured at the very same period of time, then my family would think I died here in DC or died trying to get home. They wouldn't be thinking 'Oh yeah! She was Raptured just like she told us she would be one day.'
Philippians 3:20-21 “But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.”
Yup pretty much all I can do really. I have to trust God will take care of me no matter what. That made me feel better already! Thanks, emortimer!
He is an awesome God! Praise His Holy Name!
Philippians 3:20-21 “But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.”
Quite a number of readers have written to us about the comet Elenin. A number of websites are preaching doom and gloom about this, as they have done with planetary alignment. Dr Jonathan Sarfati demolishes these claims with real physics and astronomy.
What is a comet?
We have addressed the issue of comets in detail in Comets—portents of doom or indicators of youth? Readers may like to study this, especially for the strong evidence they provide against millions of years. This also points out that comets have widely been regarded as indications of looming disaster. Now the sensationalism has a pseudo-scientific gloss involving the actual comet.
####################################################### "My subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean’s tides than comet Elenin ever will." —Don Yeomans, of NASA’s NEO program. #######################################################
But in reality, the comet itself is a ‘dirty snowball’ only a few km across. And when it is close to the sun, then some of this material evaporates and forms an ion tail and a dust tail. These can dominate the sky. However, the actual material of the tail is even thinner than our best laboratory vacuums. So there is no way the tail can hurt us in the slightest—there is almost nothing there! Indeed, Earth passed through the tail of Halley’s Comet in 1910 and barely noticed.
A direct comet impact would certainly be damaging to life. Because of their enormous speed relative to the earth (11 to 74 km/s), their kinetic energy is huge as shown by the standard formula E = ½mv². Because of the likely damage of an impact, NASA is tracking Near-Earth Objects (NEOs).
A small comet about 50 m across has been proposed as a cause of the 1908 explosion in Tunguska, Siberia, a ~10 megaton blast which flattened over 2,100 km² (800 sq. miles) of forest. But this caused no loss of human life, since there were no human habitations close by; there was no global effect. In fact, as explained in this 2008 feedback, impacts from far bigger comets would barely make a detectable difference to Earth’s axis, rotational speed or orbit.
Comet C/2010 X1 was named after Leonid Elenin (Леонид Еленин), a Russian amateur astronomer who discovered it on 10 December 2010. He was remotely using the International Scientific Optical Network’s robotic observatory near Mayhill, New Mexico, USA. It is not a very spectacular object: even at its brightest, it will be 25 times too faint for the naked eye to see. It is probably only about 3–4 km in diameter. It’s most likely a lot smaller than the famous Halley’s comet, which has a mass of 2.2×1014 kg. This sounds a lot, but the earth’s mass (M⊕) is 5.9722 × 1024 kg—27 billion times more.
Furthermore, its closest approach to Earth is 34.4 million km (21.4 million miles) on 16 October 2011—this is about the same as the closest approach of Venus. Venus has 81.5% of the mass of the Earth, and poses not the slightest threat. So a fortiori, how much less will a little pipsqueak snowball at about the same distance, with only 0.000,000,003% of the earth’s mass?
Tidal forces
Understanding the inverse cube law of tidal forces should immunize readers against any sensationalist nonsense.
Actually, the biggest effect of any heavenly object on Earth, outside of an actual collision, is tidal: the difference in gravitational attraction between different parts of the Earth. As explained in The moon: the light that rules the night, the gravitational force between two objects is given by F = Gm1 m2 /R², where G is the gravitational constant, m1 and m2 are the masses of the objects, and R is the distance between their centres of mass—an inverse square law. Thus it is highest on the part of the earth closest to the object, and lowest on the opposite side. This difference is the tidal force; and this drops off with R³—an inverse cube law.
The strongest tidal forces on Earth are exerted by the moon, with a mass of 7.35 × 10²² kg (1.23% of Earth’s) and distance of 384,404 km (239,000 miles). And the moon is very ineffective at producing serious earthquakes or supertides. But compare Elenin: the moon is 334 million times more massive, as well as almost 90 times closer. This means that its tidal effect on Earth would be 240 trillion times weaker than the moon’s! Disastrous? No, totally undetectable! Don Yeomans, of NASA’s NEO program, made the pithy comment, “my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean’s tides than comet Elenin ever will”.
Planet alignment disasters?
From time to time, we receive queries about pending disasters when the planets are aligned in the sky. First of all, ‘aligned’ to a solar system astronomer usually means ‘in the same quadrant of the sky’, not ‘in a straight line’ as many think. But this is not the main issue. Understanding the inverse cube law of tidal forces should immunize readers against any sensationalist nonsense.
The sun is much further away than the moon (400 times), so has a much lesser effect despite being 333,000 times Earth’s mass, or 27 million times more massive than the moon. The inverse cube law means that this is more than countered by a factor of 64 million (400³) due to the greater distance. Overall, this means that the sun’s tidal effect on the earth is less than half the moon’s.
But because the sun is so massive—over 99% of the total mass of the solar system—its effect is far bigger than all the planets combined could ever be. The sun’s effect can be seen by comparing spring tides, when the sun and moon are aligned, with neap tides when they are perpendicular. Clearly the most important alignment in the solar system—as far as the earth is concerned—is far from catastrophic.
To show the fallacy of sensationalist claims, we can compare the effect of a planetary alignment with alignment of the sun. Since the sun’s effect is the difference between the spring and neap tides, what is the effect of the other planets?
The closest planet is Venus. It has only 1/400,000th the mass of the sun. However, at its closest point, it is almost four times closer. So, to a good approximation, its tidal effect on Earth compared to the sun’s is 4³/400,000, or 0.003 %. I.e. it might add this much effect to the spring tide—not noticeable.
Jupiter is the biggest planet, 2.5 times more massive than all the other planets combined. But it is still less than a thousandth of the mass of the sun, and it is more than four times further away from Earth at its closest approach. So its tidal effect is only 1/12,000th that of the sun, or 0.008%.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. ~ Edmund Spenser
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. ~ Edmund Spenser
Interesting clip from CNN. Just happens to be.... 33 seconds long. Lol. Its a sign!
ALERT CNN-News-2011-Niburu-is-Real-Planet-X-Nemesis throwing comets our way
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. ~ Edmund Spenser
Post by perpetualbug on Aug 14, 2011 20:23:50 GMT -5
This video is several months old from what other viewers on youtube are saying - possibly as old as February. The only thing I could locate on CCN to correlate with this story is a blog written February 15, 2011....
There is so much information or "disinformation" out there on this comet/planet/brown dwarf/whatever it is - if there's even anything. I find it strange that when you do a search on CNN for comet elenin or even elenin - you come up with nothing. I definitely think alot of the you-tube info on this thing is mainly fear-mongering.....but I would think that at least some of the major news sites would at least come and refute it or SOMETHING. This seems like the sort of story that a newstation would see as very good for ratings at the very least. I just find the silence deafening.
Well sounds like the Ministry of Truth is doing a bang up job then, doesn't it?
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. ~ Edmund Spenser
What do y'all make of this? Does anyone know much about the Antarctic?
100% proof that something is wrong. ANTARCTIC John Gorman
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. ~ Edmund Spenser
Comet Honda speeds past Earth today, joins Comet Elenin this Fall
(TheWeatherSpace.com) -- Comet Honda is expected to pass by the Earth today above the South Pole at a distance of only 5.6 million miles.
This is about 23 times the distance from Earth to the moon. Will the comet cause an effects on our planet? Probably not, but Earth may actually alter this 0.6 mile across rock some.
The coma extends out to 43,000 miles and is currently a magnitude 8.0 in the Southern skies. The coma from Earth is half the width of the Full moon, which makes it a large night sky object for favored Southern observers.
On October 7th of 2011 (this year), Comet Honda will brighten to a magnitude 5 in the constellation Leo and favor a horizon view before sunrise for Northern sky observers.
That is not all, Comet Honda will join Comet Elenin and both will be visible on that morning in the same wide field of view in Binoculars and camera lenses, a rare treat with two comets at once!
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. ~ Edmund Spenser
Post by PrisonerOfHope on Aug 15, 2011 13:18:09 GMT -5
There are FOUR comets in our galaxy right now...I don't remember there ever being so many at once.
I wonder if Elenin isn't some sort of cover-up, maybe for a false flag? I mean, if there's nothing to it, why aren't the governments telling people that? Instead, the "elite" are building underground shelters for themselves...like that's gonna help them!
Rest easy, Earthlings. You will not be obliterated by a comet.
At least, not right now.
NASA is fighting back against rampant Internet rumors that the comet Elenin is going to strike the Earth or screw up its gravitational pull in October. Stopping just short of rolling their eyes at the doomsday rumors, NASA astronomers had this to say: It’s just not happening. Period.
“Any approximate alignments of comet Elenin with other celestial bodies are meaningless, and the comet will not encounter any dark bodies that could perturb its orbit, nor will it influence us in any way here on Earth,” said NASA scientist Don Yeomans in a Q&A released this week.
Phew. Had me worried there for a while.
The Q&A feature addresses most of the rumors you’ve probably seen bouncing around the Internet. For instance whether Elenin will block out the sun for three days (ummm, no) or that NASA is covering up concern about its impact on Earth. (For the record, NASA wants you to know it’s really, truly not concerned.)
The final word on what will happen when Elenin passes by in October? Here’s NASA’s definitive statement: “Comet Elenin will not come closer to Earth than 22 million miles (35 million kilometers). That’s more than 90 times the distance to the moon.”
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Sitchen was not a scientist, he was merely an author. His theories are wrong, and he never studied ancient languages. His book is totally made up, and no respected scientists agree with his interpretations.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. ~ Edmund Spenser
Whatever that truth turns out to be, it won't be Zecharia Sitchens version.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. ~ Edmund Spenser