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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 16, 2016 23:12:35 GMT -5
Last one for today... (4 Oct 2005)
"Kim Clement on TBN/ Prophetic Word"
Sunday night I watched Kim Clement on TBN. This was evidently a re-run of a recent appearance there, probably only a few days old. Many of you already know that Kim had a specific prophecy regarding New Orleans while in the Houston, Texas area on July 22, 2005. Here is that link www.kimclement.com/words/2005/July222005.htm In the program last night he had a series of prophetic words, one after another. Here is the 'gist' of what he said by way of prophetic word: He said that the time of the final outpouring would come after the end of October...this current month. He said many have looked back to earlier times and the outpourings, but that the one coming would be much greater. Caution was offered re being skeptical by way of the example of the Biblical story of the lepers outside the city walls and the scoffer inside the walls who, because of his doubting, would 'see the abundance but would not experience it.' All I can say is that in my opinion there was a very heavy anointing on Kim Clement as these words were delivered. I realize that many are expectant of the Rapture, possibly this Fall. I also hope the Rapture comes sooner rather than later. But, the reality is that our studies and timing could be off. God may yet have some 'activities' to perform in this earth before there is any departure to heaven.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 18, 2016 19:44:53 GMT -5
Good news - we've got fresh nuts! OK, let's take this guy's train of thought a step further. Janet Reno died last month, and "Reno" is an anagram of "Nero." Nero fiddled while Rome burned, and "fiddle" contains the letters of "fidel," so that must be a sign, right? Hey, it makes about as much sense as anything these guys have to say! "Will the Son of Man find FIDEL (FAITH) on the Earth?"
Will the Son of Man find FIDEL (FAITH) on the Earth? Luke 18:8 (Amplified) I tell you that He will defend and avenge them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find [this kind of persistent] FAITH on the Earth?” The passing of Fidel Castro may be far more important as a prophetic signal than we realise!! During the week I came across a truly remarkable article by Jonathan Cahn on Cuba on the World Net Daily website (www.wnd.com). The article is titled The Day Jonathan Cahn Gave a Prophetic Sign to Fidel Castro – the direct link to the article is below: www.wnd.com/2016/12/the-day-jonathan-cahn-gave-a-prophetic-sign-to-fidel-castro/?cat_orig=faithThis article is primarily about a one month opportunity for evangelism in Cuba in 1999, that has had to be hidden until now. For those Doves who have not seen the article, I strongly recommend reading the full article. It includes the shofar, the Magi, Jubilee timings for Fidel Castro and a meeting in the presidential palace between Johnathan Cahn and Fidel! The ashes of Fidel Castro have been laid to rest in the Santa Ifigenia Cemetery, with a lone memorial a grey/white boulder and a black plaque engraved simply with FIDEL! The name FIDEL has the meaning of FAITH (derived from FAITHFUL). What an amazing example of God’s sovereignty over nations that He causes just one word (FAITH!!) to be written on the grave of one who ruled as a dictator for so long over Cuba. And the poignant question in Luke 18:8 – will He find Faith on the Earth!! FIDEL or Faith – one word on the grave of a dictator.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 18, 2016 19:53:33 GMT -5
This hot mess is enough to give you a headache! And where people get the idea that all children and babies will be raptured, I can't imagine - there's nothing about "salvation by reason of age" in the Bible...although they proof text 2 Sam. 2:23. "When is Jesus coming?....try Christmas"
IF OUR CALENDAR IS CORRECT AND IT IS INDEED DECEMBER 11, 2016 AND IF DECEMBER 11 IS INDEED A SUNDAY.... Then I can project with some certainty when our Lord is coming for us. I have only this disclaimer and that is that I agree that “no man knows the day or hour, but the Father only”. (Matt 24:36) The only reason that we cannot know the day and hour is because there are 24 time zones on the earth at all times and there are 2 days on the earth at all times also. For anyone except God Himself to know the day and hour is simply impossible. Thus Pearl Harbor Day, for example, that is always December 7 will not be the same for all people on earth. The exact anniversary can only be determined by using Hawaii time. So, again, why is Jesus' statement in Matt 24:36 true? Because there are 24 time zones on the earth at all times and there are 2 days on the earth at all times. This is true of any event 100% of the time. First of all, most Christians will not accept December 25 as Jesus birthday either, in spite of the fact that the earliest church accepted it. (Really? I think not..."Christ's Mass" was a fabrication of the RCC.) They think they know more than those closest in time to the event. Second, they will not accept that God, in His righteous anger took away the Feast of Tabernacles due the idolatry and wickedness of ancient Israel, but later gave them a replacement Feast called Hanukkah. They think that there must therefore be 8 sacred feasts instead of 7 by taking this position. They do not stop to reason that the Sacred Feasts follow exactly the development points of the human child as to spacing of day counts, both in total and between the feasts. This count foresaw the development of the totally human side of the God/man. An eighth Feast and consequent count of days would make negate the divine pattern. The only thing most have gotten right is that we could not nor have we ever known the year. But this year, God has said through several of His witnesses, prophets and watchers that the rapture will be in this year, 2016. He obviously said this so that we could know within a year when our Lord might come. With that fact verified by God, Himself, all we need to find is the month and day. The month and day is altogether about Jesus Christ, so many looked to the Feasts as the time of His coming. But, I constantly warned that Jesus Christ had said in Scripture that “in a time ye think not, the Son of man cometh”. Most did not think of Christmas because most did not believe His birth was actually on Christmas, but rather in September or October or even April, or some such other time. God has His ways of revealing what He wants us to know. So, in order to prove that the body of Jesus arose from the grave, for example, He extracted that body right through the burial shroud that covered the body. He arose as pure light, burning an image on the material as He came up through it, so that all would be able to see a negative picture of His features. All men then had to do was to “develop” the negative into a positive picture to see Him as He was when He lay in death for us. Very ingenious. So likewise, God left us a way to know when His Son was to be born. He did this by telling us the time of His death on the cross, again in the Scriptures. That time was to be on a Passover Feast. He also did this by giving Him the only name that in both Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic that could be possible to produce the proper count of days of His life. He did this by giving every letter of these language alphabets a number value, which if taken to its extreme, could turn the entire Bible into a Book of numbers. This number system is called “gematria”. Finally, He did this by inspiring the Apostle Matthew to write in chapter 1, verse 21 the identity of the newborn infant, who was and is the God/man. It says “Thou shalt call His name JESUS: For He shall SAVE His people from their sins”. The Holy Spirit is His Father, and Mary the virgin His mother. Thus, Mary's baby boy was/is God in the flesh. The archangel gave us His earthly name: It was JESUS SAVIOR at His birth and throughout His entire earthly ministry. He came to seek and to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel, NOT to be a king. He was born on December 24/25 in the year 00. Proof of this birth date of Jesus Christ is here given using the gematria of His name, Jesus Savior: JESUS in gematria is 888 and SAVIOR in gematria is 14. Multiply the two for the number of days of His life from conception to death on the cross. (This count is proof also that life begins at conception, not at birth and it therefore condemns abortion on demand as the sin of murder). The product of 888 x 14 = 12,432 days. The gestation period of a human child is 280 days consisting of 14 days from conception to fertilization, and 266 days for fetal growth to birth. Removing the gestation period of 280 days, that is conception to physical birth, the product is 12,432 days – 280 days gestation = 12,152 days, the time of His physical life from birth to death. In solar years the total is 33.27 years. He was 33 + years old at death. Based on the rotating universal Hebrew calendar, in the year 33, Passover came on April 3. It is recorded that the date of His crucifixion was Passover, thus April 3, 33 was the day of crucifixion and death. Counting back 12,152 days from April 3, 33, one lands exactly on December 24/25, in the year 00. Further counting back 280 more days, one lands on March 20./21, the Spring equinox. This is the day when Gabriel announced the royal conception to Mary, the virgin girl and that day, the Holy Spirit caused the conception to occur. Now comes the crux of the matter. It is the date of the return of Jesus Christ for His Bride. This is to occur in the month of December, 2016. We know this much because December is the last month of the year 2016, and the year 2016 has been identified by the Lord Himself as the year of His coming, and we are now in December. So that leaves us only what day of the month of December will this be? Can it be known? If so, how can that be calculated? I believe it can be known subject only to the two conditions given at the beginning of this paper. This is how. Jesus, Himself gave us the way to find out, which would be valid only if one knows the year. It is recorded in Matthew 24:15, 20, 21a “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand). Then let them FLEE.......”. Verse 20 “But pray that your flight be not in winter, neither on the sabbath day. For then shall be great tribulation”....! Why did the Lord give this admonition to pray that they not flee in winter and for them to flee without even a coat or hat? Because travel for a Jew is forbidden on the sabbath day. Winter is a harsh and deadly time to leave without even a coat. So why did our Lord give such a stark warning? BECAUSE THE LORD WAS TELLING US THAT THE FLIGHT WILL INDEED HAPPEN IN THE WINTER AND ON THE SABBATH DAY BOTH!! It must occur in December, because we are in December, 2016. So what sabbath and what Winter? It is clear that this Winter comes on December 21, the time of the Winter solstice, therefore it is still Autumn around the world as I write this. There are only two sabbaths left after the solstice and these are December 24, Christmas eve and December 31, New Year's eve. I believe that it will most likely be Christmas eve, because a few of God's watchers have been told that there will be no Christmas (for them), which means no Christmas on earth for the Bride, but rather the Bride's Christmas will be in heaven. Scripture records that it was evening when the couple, Mary and Joseph were turned away from the inn and had to sleep in a cave. And the moment of birth was after the time of sunset, the end of Christmas eve, because the angel's sang at night in the darkness to the shepherds. Since sunset to sunset comprised the Jewish day, the birth came after sunset, and after darkness, which would therefore be on December 25, 00, the first Christmas day. I think that our rapture is going be on Christmas eve/Christmas day. For us America, I think that sometime in the night hours our Lord will come, defeating Satan (Santa) by removing His faithful bride, thereby bringing His own the best of all Christmas gifts, the rapture. But by doing so, He will be denying the world their joyous Santa day. Instead Christmas will bring the onset of the great tribulation. President Obama said that he would win the war on Christmas. I suggest that he was referring to the Christians being gone and that he would finally control all by having to declare martial law because of the massive upset caused by their disappearance along with children, babies, and innocent ones.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 18, 2016 20:00:22 GMT -5
The Numbers Nut is still going on about ASCII codes and is still under the delusion that the US is prophetically significant. He really needs to take up a more productive hobby...like collecting string. "10 December 2016 links three Presidents: Harding, JFK and Obama"
2153 is the sum of the ASCII codes for 'John Fitzgerald Kennedy' The sum of the ASCII codes for his middle name 'Fitzgerald' is 1036. He had just completed 1036 days when he was assassinated. He was assassinated on the 326th day of 1963 (November 22). 2153 is the 326th prime number. 12.10.2016 will be 9 (judgement) x 2153 days since JFK was assassinated on 11.22.1963. The current Jewish year is 5,777. On 12.10.2016 Obama will have lived 5 x 777 more days than JFK. From the last day of 1948 to JFK's assassination on 11.22.1963 was 5 x 777 days President Harding died (supposedly of natural causes) 881 days into his Presidency. 881 is the 153rd prime number and the 43rd number within the 'Prime Cube' where Obama's name falls as the 43rd different President 793 is the English gematria of 'BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA' and it is the 12th Star of David number and the 654th composite number: 12 + 654 = 666. (Anyone want to guess how long it'll be before this nut figures out how the supposed gematria of Donald J. Trump works into the equation?) From the day Harding died (8.2.1923) to 12.10.2016 will be 43 x 793 days.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 0:06:14 GMT -5
This guy needs to get a clue. The so-called "blood moons" were meaningless - they were ordinary eclipses. "The 14th, 15th, 16th Full Moon"
In my opinion, the Tetrad of 2014 and 2015 was the most important heavenly sign. And we all know that 2016 ends with Three Supermoons, and it could be a clue. The 1st Supermoon of the 1st month was the 14th full moon from the last blood moon of the Tetrad, and the 2nd Supermoon of the 2nd month was the 15th full moon. Could the 14th and 15th full moon by Jewish calendar indicate the year of 2014 and 2015? The 3rd Supermoon of the 3rd month is the 16th full moon which could indicate the year of 2016. Our Lord rose on the 3rd day. And it's possible that John Lawler's "in the top of it's phase" could be fulfilled on this 3rd Supermoon. We should watch very closely for it.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 0:08:02 GMT -5
""Duality of 777""
"Duality of 777" Around the end of November, just after the posts n 777.68 , I had the words 777.8 said to me in a vision while asleep. I'm always careful when it comes to these things, lest they be from darkness and fallen spirits. My criteria to accept these visions are from our Father are: 1) Can never contradict The Word 2) Is a very simple message, like "yes, no, a verse of scripture reference, a comment on something that is biblical". I check with prayer to confirm which Jesus is touching my thoughts. 3) I have found that visions from our Father always stay in my mind forever, I don't forget them like regular dreams. I always wait a few weeks to see. What my vision was "777.8" and nothing else. If converted to 0.8 of a date (as Randy did with 0.68), I get Friday July 21st, 2017 When I searched for the Torah reading for then, I get Numbers 30, which to me is clearly about the Bride and Israel compared. I also think of the crucifixion on a Friday, and how Jesus's shed blood was the greatest legal transaction in the Court of Heaven (Zion) that defeated and negated accusation of the father of all lies (1 Peter 5:8) against the redeemed. Seek the materials from Robert Henderson "Operating in the Courts of Heaven", available for purchase from Sid Roth's site. The other duality with 777.8 to me, is related to Johnathan Cahn's words on a CD of "Mystery of 8", (also can be purchased from Sid Roth's site). 8 is the most mysterious number in scripture (as explained by Johnathan Cahn) because it's both after completion of 7 and the beginning of 1. The redeemed live physically now, and spiritually already in eternity (which is 8). When I start seeing all these duality's, and multiple scriptural relationships, to me it has Father God's Truth all over it. So is July 21st, 2017 "the date"? I'm not thinking that to be necessarily so, but it could be. One thing is relevant though, several of us seeing June and July of 2017. I very much agree that 5777 and 5778 could be before and after of the removal of the redeemed from here. And God is Holy and Righteous, He is not confusion, He is Faithful and True. I don't see any other way for interpreting this vision.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 0:10:53 GMT -5
Yet another phony "prophet." So, a few months ago we had "prophets" claiming that Ted Cruz was anointed of God, then we had the Trump nuts...what next? "Trump prophecy true, here is what to expect."
I shared the Trump prophecy several times before the election. It got little traction here. Well, as you can see, it was true. Here is what to expect now. There will be justice for the unexposed crimes that the media tried to hush up. The border will be protected, many illegals will go home, there will be 3-5 months of trouble in the cities as they resist the changes. 5 Supreme court justices will be replaced, 3 from a scandal. The dollar will soar and the price of gas will go down. The US will once again be the hub of evangelism and be a blessing to the rest of the world. This is the rest of the prophecy given to Mark Taylor, a retired fire fighter who was confined to his home for 10 years due to on the job exposure. Rick Wiles of Trunews did an excellent interview. This is a transcript of how it all startedl in 2011. original-genesis-original-intent.blogspot.com/2016/05/a-2011-prophecy-about-president-donald.html
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:26:06 GMT -5
Wow, hard to believe this thread has surpassed 100K views! Well, we'll have some fresh nuts for you tomorrow, but for now, enjoy Wayback Wednesday. Here's an old game of "Pin the Tail on the Antichrist" (from pre-Obama days). 666 Calculation: Calculate the number of the names of the popes
7 Papal monarchy names since (1775-1799). Last carrier of each name in color. From the offical list of Popes. 251. Pius VI (1775-1799) (Papal government abolished by Napolean under this Pope) 252. Pius VII (1800-1823) 253. Leo XII (1823-1829) 254. Pius VIII (1829-1830) 255. Gregory XVI (1831-1846) Sixteen popes elected to this name (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+Through 16 = 136) 256. Pius IX (1846-1876) 257. Leo XIII (1878-1903) Thirteen popes elected to this name (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13 = 91) 258. Pius X (1903-1914) 259. Benedict XIV (1914-1922) Fourteen popes elected to this name (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14 = 105) 260. Pius XI (1922-1939) 261. Pius XII (1939-1958) Tweleve popes elected to this name (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12 = 78) 262. John XXI (1958-1963) Twenty-one popes elected to this name (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+ Through 21 = 231) 263. Paul VI (1963-1978) Six popes elected to this name (1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21) (The one is) 264. John Paul I (1978) (7th yet come, the new papal name, never been used before in churchs history) 265. John Paul II (1978-2004) Two popes elected to this name (1+2 = 3) 266. Eighth New Name I (=1) One pope to choose this name (The new papal monarchy name never been used before in papal history) The last carrier of each name 1. Gregory XVI (1831-1846) 16 Gregorys = 136 2. Leo XIII (1878-1903) 13 Leos = 91 3. Benedict (XIV) (1914-1922) 14 Benedicts = 105 4. Pius XII (1939-1958) 12 Piuses = 78 5. John (XXI) (1958-1963) 21 Johns = 231 6. Paul VI (1963-1978) 6 Pauls = 21 7. John Paul II (1978 - ?) 2 John Pauls = 3 8. New Name I (?) 1 Antichrist = 1 (The number one, which is the antichrists, is of the other seven triangular numbers!) The number One when added to the other seven triangular numbers becomes 666. (136+91+105+78+231+21+3) and the number 1 is of the other seven triangular numbers = 666) Or the number of the eighth name(1) is of the other seven (665) = 666). All eight numbers are triangular numbers! Number of years reigned in each names history Gregory: 125 years, Leo: 99 years, Benedict: 88 years, Pius: 161 years, John:122 years, Paul: 67 years, John Paul: 26 years. The 7th name John Paul has reigned the least amount of time compared to the other six names. Total time from first to last: Gregory: 1256 years, Leo: 1463 years, Benedict: 1347 years, Pius: 1818 years, John: 1440 years, Paul: 1221 years, John Paul: 26 years Pope John Paul II (1978 - ?) = 665 (The seventh papal monarchy name) Pythagoras Triangular Numbers The thirty-six triangular numbers up to 666 ( Papal count numbers in red ) 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 21, 28, 36 45, 55, 66, 78, 91, 105, 120 136, 153, 171, 190, 210, 231 253, 276, 300, 325, 351, 378 406, 435, 496, 528, 561 595, 630, 666 The eighth triangular number is thirty-six (because 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 = 36), and the thirty-six triangular number is 666 (because 1+2+3+4 all the way to thirty- six = 666. The eighth and new papal name will be the antichrist. Being the eighth he is in triangular kinship to the 666. The Book of Revelation was written about 95 A.D. The writer lived on a Greek island, (PATMOS). (He says so at Revelation 1:9.) He knew cryptography. ("666" is clearly a numerical cryptogram, and the writer says that it "stands for" the name of the beast.) It is almost impossible that the writer did not know about Pythagoras, who lived from 569 BC to 475 BC, on a Greek island (SAMOS), and is the "godfather of cryptography." Pythagoras wrote a paper on the 666/8-8-8 triangle, in which the natural numbers 1 through 36 inclusive are arranged in the shape of an equilateral triangle, with 8 digits on the edge, like this... 1 2....3 4....5....6 7....8....9...10 11...12...13...14...15 16...17...18...19...20...21 22...23...24...25...26...27...28 29...30...31...32...33...34...35...36 = 666 8-8-8 Equilateral triangle (8 edges = 666) 1 = 1 2+3 = 5 4+5+6 = 15 7+8+9+10 = 34 11+12+13+14+15 = 65 16+17+18+19+20+21 = 111 22+23+24+25+26+27+28 = 175 29+30+31+32+33+34+35+36 = 260 Eight rows or edges makes eight numbers that give the sum of 666,-------making eight in triangular kinship to 666. Eight numbers:1 IS OF THE SEVEN + 5+15+34+65+111+175+260 = 666 ( Eight papal count numbers:1 IS OF THE SEVEN +3+21+78+91+105+136+231= 666 ) 260: 2+6+0 = 8 175: 1+7+5 = 13 = 1+3 = 4 111:1+1+1 = 3 65: 6+5 = 11 = 2 34: 3+4 = 7 15:1+5 = 6 5 = 5 1= 1 (8,4,3,2,7,6,5,1) The eighth and new papal name will be the antichrist. Being the eighth he is in triangular kinship to the 666. Seven Papal Number Triangles (Enlarge screen: Scroll down) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Gregory: 136 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Leo: 91 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Benedict: 105 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Pius: 78 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * John: 231 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Paul: 21 * * * John Paul: 3 * New Name: 1
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:32:42 GMT -5
Can't say I think much about "Rupture Ratty," having had a most unpleasant experience with them myself (being libeled, lied about, attacked, having my posts changed by mods, etc.), but if someone posted this nonsense here, they'd get banned as well. If you're not familiar with Dr. Eby, well...let's just say he was really "out there," claiming among other things that God told him he wouldn't die, but would be raptured. (30 Dec 2002)
"I got "BANNED"from the RR board for this post"
Dr Eby was a True man of GOD!!! Howdy to all my fellow watchers,and I hoped y'all had blessed Christmas holy days.... It has been awhile since I have posted in here ,I have been busy lining up tv stations for our UATV Network,We start channel 28 here in Dallas /Ft WORTH Feb1st!!! This is my missionary calling ,I have been and I am part of this family since the begining,I made chocolate cookies for everyone HAHAHAHa,I still consider this my family here,although I have been gone alot as of 911*, I know most of y'all,in here,as y'all know me!!Good bad or indifferent,HOWEVER I READ all this Blah -Blah about Dr Eby..... & the saints were screaming,So I am going to reply to all of you,THE TRUTH of the matter,about Dr EBY...There are leaders & followers on this site that pray & wait for someone to MESS_UP,so they can pounce on them,THIS IS TOTALLY SICK N WRONG!!!!!I wasnt going to post However after reading all the posts ,the words were crying to be heard!!!@ this great INJUSTICE!!!AND the Un _CHRIST-LIKE MANNER displayed in here..... I am stunned and dismayed at the venom and lack of charity coming forth on this board from so-called Christians concerning Dr. Eby. This dear, godly man, who is now in glory with Jesus, is even being called a false prophet and a "liar." A liar! Can you imagine such language? Eby never called himself a prophet and he never prophesied, but just reported what happened to him. He cannot be a liar because he just reported what he understood as happened to him. He would have been dishonest to do otherwise. We do not understand it. His understanding was obviously wrong. But in his last year or two, while he was still lucid, I am told that even he began to question his original interpretation and to see his life more as a marker for the rapture. That makes sense, but only God knows. I do know that he was an honest, godly man. Surely we are close to the rapture, or otherwise this board would not exist. How can professed Christians make such harsh judgments about another? We all see through a glass darkly. We are only finite, and God is infinite. These critics are not omniscient either. A "false prophet" in the New Testament sense is one who proclaims another Christ, not someone who mistakenly believes God is saying something when He is not. Such a person, if a believer who loves and proclaims Jesus, is merely in error. About Dr. Eby's message, Randy Bullock wrote: "There are numerous Bible prophesies that would have been misunderstood by those who heard them before fulfillment. For instance, Daniel took Jeremiah's words wrong. God told Jeremiah: "For thus says the Lord, 'When seventy years have been completed for Babylon, I will visit you and fulfill My good word to you, to bring you back to this place." (Jer. 29:10). "Then it will be when seventy years are completed I will punish the king of Babylon and that nation,' declares the Lord, 'for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans;I will make it an everlasting desolation. And I will bring upon that land all My words which I have pronounced against it..." (Jer. 25:12-13) Scholars believe that Daniel was very disappointed in 538 BC (Dan.9), because the 70 years were, according to Daniel's calculations, near completion and Daniel could see no indication of the fulfillment of the prophecy. We now know that the "return" to Jerusalem would be about 50,000 devout Jews, while a couple of million of the less convinced stayed behind. Babylon had become their home, and they were comfortable. Daniel probably thought Babylon's punishment would happen soon after the conclusion of the 70 years, but it did not, most of those prophecies have yet to be fulfilled. I am sure you have noticed many other such examples. I have a theory about why God's words are often misunderstood by His followers. The reason He cloaks the message is because dark forces are also listening. If they knew exactly what the prophecy meant, they would work to thwart it. Instead, they don't understand either, and in the end, God's word is 100% correct and fulfilled." The Eby situation is an example as to how this board has deteriorated and how there is no godly oversight, where almost any kind of evil, uncharitable talk is tolerated, but not reasoned biblical interpretation and speculation of when the rapture may possibly occur, an effort which is not at all unscriptural. One post even said that Jim Bramlett, one of tens of thousands of people who have reported Dr. Eby's testimony, should "repent." Repent of what? Jim is not a prophet and does not prophesy. His calling is that of a reporter, and I know he does the best he can and that he is a humble man of God. Jim's communications about the end-times, Bible interpretations and possible revelations of others have been a big blessing to many people. He does not claim to be God, nor have perfect discernment, nor always right, but he is out there trying to report relevant information to us, and for no personal gain. He is a retiree whom God called to do this in 1993, and he has been faithful. Besides, Eby's story has been all over the world in books and on TV for many years. If there is any repenting needed, it is by those with un-Christian attitudes and words, and for this board for allowing it to be made public. God is not pleased. He is more pleased with an Eby or a Bramlett who by faith are humbly making their best honest effort to communicate information, even when maybe wrong, than those self-righteous hypocrites who are always sniping, criticizing and sowing discord amongst the brethren, which God says He hates. IF JESUS came today & we all are @ the Judgement Seat tomorrow,I will make my "STAND" w/an EBY and a Bramlett,true men of GOD,and that are known by their fruits,they have both done more to spread the Gospel and LOVE of JESUS to the world than ALL of us on this Board put together,Even myself ,I am tring to get the Left Behind Letters put on the AIR,thru the television network I am a part of.I am taking airtime instead of pay!!!We have already produced a LEFT BEHIND Tape message to be played& aired,after the rapture!!!!Please pray for all of us here,to be successful in this endevor!!I thank you in advance!! So Now for all of you that want to shoot more darts @dreby,Col.Bramlett,and/or me ,go right ahead,I have prayed earnestly before I wrote this post,I will STAND,for the WORD of God,IF y'all want to lump me w/ an EBY or a Bramlett ,fine w/ me ,Iwould be honoured to even be metioned w/those names!!!They are ture, humble,God-fearing Christ-like,servants of our Living Lord God Jesus CHrist!!! I will take my chances,STANDING for Right & Justice!!! Lets all pray & watch for HIS COMING instead of knocking each other down!!!!! Now Lets FLEE and BE FREE in 2003* (thats a travistexism) __________________ 'We've got to get it together, because Jesus is coming and He's coming for his bride, not a harem.'" til that time,
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:34:51 GMT -5
Yeah, "the Lord" showed him. Right. (29 Dec 2002)
"Re: Dr. Eby's passing at 7:11"
As I have posted in the past, The Lord has been showing me the number 7:11 for many years now. He showed me that it pertained to judgement and led me to Genesis 7:11. I see this number in the strangest of places and very frequently. I believe that Dr. Eby's passing at the moment is another huge sign. For me, it's too much to be a mere coincidence. I pray we will all be seeing Dr. Eby and each other very soon!
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:36:35 GMT -5
I guess their "god" can't make things plain enough for everyone to understand... (29 Dec 2002)
"Eby's death"
Dear All, God did not tell Dr. Eby specifically that he would be physically alive at the rapture; that is how Dr. Eby interpreted what God said. So, we now need another interpretation ... that doesn't make Dr. Eby a false prophet. If that were the case, how many pastors, theologians, etc. would be labeled false prophets too for differing Biblical interpretations over the years? I think labeling Dr. Eby a false prophet is a far more risky claim than anything he ever said. You then are also accusing God of deception, lies, etc., if God's intention through Dr. Eby was to draw others closer to Him, which, I think, was God's intention all along, rather than simplistic date setting.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:37:56 GMT -5
(sigh) (28 Dec 2002)
"4:44 difference in EBY going and EVE coming"
EBY goes and EVE comes (as scientists are calling the cloned baby). Same morning, same day, same month, same year. I have read that EVE was born at 11:55 a.m. (ET) and a friend says that EBE died at 7:11 a.m ET. That is 4:44 difference. Does that mean anything to anyone? A missionary/evangelist friend in the Middle East wrote: "PRAISE THE LORD THAT YOU SENT OUT THE EARLIER REPORT WHEN YOU DID. IT IS NO ACCIDENT ABOUT THE CLONE STORY. IT'S CURTAINS FOR THIS DISPENSATION. AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME."
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:39:37 GMT -5
I guess not! BTW, I remember reading his book about his alleged trip to heaven many years ago. It was utter nonsense... (28 Dec 2002)
"Dr. Eby's Passing...Could it be a warning?"
I was sorry to hear about Dr. Eby's passing. God may have allowed him to believe he was going to live until the Rapture so he would have the will to live about 30 more years from his NDE. I've kept track of his testimony since the 70's, have all his books, and seen him on TV. He's "all right" with me. Don't "write off" the importance of his testimony YET. If his passing is a 3 day warning, that would bring it to December 29th (eve of "delayed Hannukah," by some figuring - symbolic of 3 days and 3 nights of Jesus' death. If his passing is a 7 day warning, that would bring it to the 28th of Tevet / Shevat, within the "delayed Hannukah. If it's a 10 day warning, it would bring it to the 7th day of "delayed Hannukah, and nearly the end. So, maybe his passing has no specific meaning - as far as Bible prophecy is concerned - AND MAYBE NOT!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:41:13 GMT -5
Huh? (28 Dec 2002)
"Eby In Heaven?"
What happened to Dr. Eby? Is he in the grave or in Heaven? Let us not forget, that for some, 'to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord'. What does this mean? Most die, enter the grave and sleep, waiting for either the trumpet blast or the judgement seat. But it obvious from scripture that some do in fact bypass the grave and go directly into the presence of the Lord. Assuming that Dr. Eby went directly to the Lord, we can be assured that he got there via a rapture experience; i.e.; his corrupted body had to put on incorruption in order to enter Heaven. Therefore, based upon scripture, it is highly possible that Dr. By has indeed been raptured and is even now standing in the presence of the Lord. Let us rejoice. God kept his promise.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:42:56 GMT -5
(28 Dec 2002)
"Feeding of 5000 and the Coming of the Lord"
Our God is a Holy God, and a Holy God is a perfect God, and a perfect God has a perfect plan. As one who spent almost 20 years in the study of biblical time, I know there are a few problems with the recording of history, and matching biblical time to fit. But I can say without a doubt we are nearing the 6000th year from creation, and the 2000th year from the Lord Jesus's coming when he was born. I wanted to share from a story told in three gospels of an amazing unveiling of his coming, and that is the feeding of the 5000. In Mark 8 for example I noticed he was talking about something much more than the leaven of the Pharisees. Questioning his disciples: asking having eyes do you not see?, and ears do you not hear? The the meat of the subject came up! Asking how many baskets of broken pieces did the the disciples picked up! And then the Big Question----Do you not yet understand? A perfect God would have made the pieces come out exactly to feed the 5000, unless there was a story to unfold. The miracle that day was the "multiplication" of food !!! 5 loaves times 2 fish equals 10 Bible says he divided it among the 5000 5000 divided by 10 equals 500 Blessing are always multiplied ! 500 times 12 baskets left over equals 6000 In the 6000th year the Lord is coming !!!!!!!! I would encourage you to try the feeding of the 4000 with 7 loaves and a few (2) fish) times 7 baskets left over. We have an awesome God unveiling the timing which must shortly come to pass.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:45:37 GMT -5
Oh wow....I looked at the clock earlier myself and it said 1:11. Must be a "confirmation!" (28 Dec 2002)
"111- A Sample of my Day"
The numbers 111 continue to pop up in my face........why? I don't know... Just today, I'll give you a sample>>>>>>>>> I awoke in the night...glance at the clock to see if it was near to time to get up. It was 1:11...uhg.. The first clone= Eve was born at 11:55 (5+5=1) I open another news report==> Americans spend about $11.1 billion on veterinary medicine each year, according to the American Veterinary Medical Association. Most is out of pocket: Fewer than 1 percent of the nearly 60 million households with pets have pet insurance. cbs ------------------------------------------------------ Then I received 'this' in an email==>>> -------------> Do you know how significant "one" thing can be? I finally got A book!!! "MountainWings Moments - Parables of Life" is in my hands. It's beautiful, all 416 (='s 11) pages, the red leather feeling cover, the gold embossed type, plus the color dust jacket are gorgeous. There is only one slight problem. I only have "ONE" book. The rest of the books are in another state. The printer sent a book overnight to my home on Saturday to approve the book before shipping. I approved it. Before I opened the package God spoke: "Go outside and open it in the sun and note the exact time you first see the book." I went outside in the back yard. My Jeep was parked in the back. I looked at the GPS unit in the Jeep to get the "exact" time. GPS units have exact time to the millionths of a second. As I looked at the GPS, the time indicator changed from 11:10 to 11:11. I stood in the sun, opened the package, and unwrapped "Parables of Life." It looked far better than I expected. It was beautiful! Even the threads of the spine stitching were red and gold and matched the red and gold cover. I now understood why the printer said he was running a few days later than promised. He said stitching 416 pages took time. Why did I have to stand in the sun? Why did I need to know that it was exactly 11:11 A.M. EST on December 21, 2002? I don't know. Maybe the book will bring sunshine into the lives of many. This book was another MountainWings Moment. Not just because one book had arrived, but the one book meant that there were many others. It meant the job was finished. It meant that it wouldn't be long before you get your books. The books probably will not be delivered to us until Monday, December 30 because the office will be closed Christmas, -------------------------------------- Then I'm given an itinerary for a business trip. The departure date is 1,11...Jan.11..(oh, why not?) It would be extra nice to understand what 111 really means.. The nearest I could see on the Dove site was the eminent threat of WW111. or it's the dawn of the 3rd 1000 year segment since Christ died and rose again. Or that 1/11 we will be raised up in the air to be with the Lord forevermore.......I'm hoping this is the case because the world is spinning too fast and nuts. . . this first clone is terrorism .. Father in Heaven, deliver us from the madness and the evil. Seapraiser2 PS...There was a diversion in the day..My brother called and was delighted to report his round-trip airfare to St.Louis would only be $153. I didn't say a word...lol (29 Dec 2002)
"Addendum to 111"
In my post last night I forgot one. Picking up the morning Tampa Trib, the front page heralded "POWERFUL WIN".. WEST VIRGINIA MAN CLAIMS LARGEST SINGLE LOTTERY PAYMENT.~~~~~~~ He will be paid---- $ 1 1 1. 7 million yearly... BTW: He's a Christian man. I do not think the 111 is a negative to those who love and follow
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:47:26 GMT -5
More Eby nonsense... (28 Dec 2002)
"Eby out - clone in"
Eby out - clone in Dear friends: Several have noticed that the very same day Dr. Eby goes out, the first cloned baby comes in. Coincidence? Such profound events cannot be coincidence, especially if Dr. Eby's life was a parallel to that of Methuselah, a possibility previously expressed. (As you may recall, their next 'Methuselah' was the heretic Kenneth Hagin, he died years ago, so now they're looking at Billy Graham.) One friend remarked, "I have always personally felt that when a clone was born, it would be closing time on our society from the Lord's viewpoint!" (28 Dec 2002)
"FLASH: Dr. Richard Eby passes on"
FLASH: Dr. Richard Eby passes on Dear friends: I have just received an unconfirmed report that Dr. Richard Eby went to be with the Lord yesterday, December 26, 2002. This will come as a great disappointment to many because of the belief that the rapture would occur while Eby was still alive, based on his own testimony. However, that is probably why, with amazing timing, God gave us new insight on what Eby really heard from the Lord as shared by Rev. Ron Patterson on December 23, just three days before Eby's death, which I will repeat below. Jim _________________ Excerpt of my December 23 message titled, "What did God really say to Dr. Eby": I spoke with Ron yesterday and learned that a year or so ago, before Eby's health deteriorated so badly, Ron had a chance to sit down and talk with him at length. Ron asked him to repeat his experiences to him, and precisely what he actually heard the Lord say. Eby told Ron that the Lord told him that He is going to use his life span as an indicator, or an example, so that people will know when He is coming. Ron says that Eby always interpreted that as meaning the rapture will happen before he dies. But he asked Ron, "What do you think it means?" At the time, Ron said he was not sure, but in the last few days he believes God may be giving him some new insight. Ron says that he is not certain, but because of the wording Dr. Eby described, he thinks it is a distinct possibility that Dr. Eby's life is like that of Methuselah, the son of Enoch. There are different possible meanings to Methuselah's name, but one meaning is, "When he dies, judgment." Methuselah's life was an indicator of God's coming judgment. This judgment was delayed as long as Methuselah was alive, but as soon as he died, God's judgment came via the Flood (from which Noah and his family were saved, in a type of the rapture, as with Lot). Ron believes it may be possible that based on the exact wording Dr. Eby reports that he heard, he may not live to see the rapture but the end of his life may be a major sign of the rapture and judgment just afterward. Ron says that in his books, Dr. Eby honestly gave the best possible description and explanation for his experience as he understood it at the time. Again, it is not clear, and it is possible that the rapture may occur before Dr. Eby dies, Ron says. But if he does die, Ron emphasizes, we will know that we are really "at the door," and it will confirm the new understanding just described. We should be prepared for any eventuality. I have not spoken with Dr. Eby and I do not know anyone who has, but I did see a report the other day that his health has further deteriorated badly and he may not have much longer. By the way, the Bible Encyclopedia says that Methuselah was the oldest man of whom we have any record. This very ancient man lived before the Flood, and died at the age of 969 years, in the year of the Flood (Gen. 5:21-27; 1 Chr. 1:3). This fact, plus the possible meaning of his name, suggests that Methuselah's very godly father, Enoch, received a prophecy from God when his son was born, thus the name. Methuselah's great age may be further evidence of God's "long-suffering...in the days of Noah" (1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 3:9). Methuselah's name is mentioned seven times in the Bible
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:52:13 GMT -5
The stupidity never ends... (28 Dec 2002)
"Dr Eby's passing could be a 40 day marker for US!!"
Further to my post on Dr. Eby's passing. I believe, that God is trying to show us that we are the generation that will see the coming of our Lord. Dr. Eby's lifespan, is a marker, not only for Jesus' soon coming, but also for judgement coming, probably at the very same time. Dr Eby was in his 90's, I think he was. Since God has shorten the life span of man to 100 years, we know we are the generation to see all this and more come to pass. A GENERATION IS 40 YEARS, IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, MOSES AND THE ISREALITES, ROAMED THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS, UNTIL THIS GENERATION WHO SINNED DIED OFF AND DID NOT ENTER THE PROMISED LAND. JESUS, FASTED FOR 40 DAYS, IN THE DESERT. JESUS, ASCENDED TO THE FATHER AFTER 40 DAYS. SO, LET'S JUST SPECULATE, NOTHING MORE OR LESS, LET SAY 40 DAYS FROM DR. EBY'S DEATH WILL BE FEBRUARY 3, 2003....0+2+0+3+2+0+0+3= (10) (10) days you shall have tribulation! On the third day, I will raise you Up (3rd day of Feb?) (3rd year of 2000=2003?) (3rd hour of Jesus death on the cross-3:00pm) 3 + 3 + 3 = (9...is the number of completion.) This is NOT THUS SAITH THE LORD, IT'S NOT A VISION OR A DREAM, it is my personal deduction, and hope that WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IN THIS COMING YEAR 2003, WE ARE GOING HOME AT THE RAPTURE. DON'T WATCH FOR THIS DATE OR ANY OTHER DATE, KEEP YOU "EYES ON JESUS" AT ALL TIMES. MARANATHA! EVEN SO COME LORD JESUS, COME SOON!
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 21, 2016 20:56:41 GMT -5
Last one for today - I can't take anymore! (29 Dec 2002)
"111 - What it means to me"
In response to Seapraiser's letter today concerning 111, I would like to add by comments. I, too, repeatedly see this 111 number. And I've finally come up with what I think God is trying to show me. See if you agree. It all began to crystallize for me when my dh went on second shift. He needed to leave the house by 1:11 every day in order to get to work on time. So it was a separation time between the family and him. What really clinched it was a bus trip that I took with some of the church folk. We got back from our long trip at exactly 1:11 am and debarked the bus. And then as my husband and I drove away from the church, his car clock which is a couple minutes slow also read 1:11. That's when I really got it. 111 is the number for separation or division. A breaking with the old and a start with the new. By the by, my birthday is Jan. 11. This year on 111, I'll change from 44 years of age to 45. It is my understanding that concerning the verse that says "That day will not come until there be a great falling away and the man of sin be revealed", the portion of scripture that says "great falling away" could have read "great separation". That is what I am looking toward now - That Great Separation Day! And every time I see 111 now, it reminds me to be prepared because that day is soon approaching.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 23, 2016 1:09:18 GMT -5
The Numbers Nut is still wasting his time on nonsense... "Center Chapter Psalms 117. 117th day of 5777 is 27 January (27.01) of 2017. 2701 is the Gematria of GN 1:1."
The United States is comprised of the 50 states plus the District of Columbia for a total of 51 defined areas. 5.14.1948 and 9.11.2001 point directly to the 21st of January 2017 in my 'Prime Cube' made up of 51 prime numbers The sum of the last 26 prime numbers from the center value (467) to its 51st and last value (941) equals the exact number of days from Israel's rebirth on 5.14.1948 to 9.11.2001 (19,478 days). The sum of the first 25 values from 79 to 463 equals the exact number of days from 9.11.2001 to 1.21.2017 (5611 days). There are 7 inclusive days from the 21st of January 2017 to the 27th of January 2017. 27th of January in the two digit format of 'DD.MM': 27.01. 2701 is the gematria of the 7 Hebrew words of Genesis 1:1. From the Winter Solstice of 2016 to the 27th of January 2017 will be 37 days, or 888 hours. From the Super Moon on 1.25.1948 to 1.21.2017 will be exactly 25,200 inclusive days, or 70 prophetic years. The 2017th composite number is 2368 (the Greek gematria of 'JESUS CHRIST': 888 + 1480). 2041 is the Greek gematria of 'ANTICHRIST'. From the Indonesia earthquake and tsunami on 12.26.2004 to 1.21.2017 will be 2368 + 2041 days. From the Chili earthquake on 2.27.2010 to 1.21.2017 will be 2520 days, or exactly 7 prophetic years. From 1.27.2017 to the top of my 'Circle of Time' is 469 days. This arc of 469 plus the radius of 720 creates the shape of a sickle used for the harvest. 469 + 720 equals the 1189 chapters in the Bible. From the day Delaware became the first state to join the Union (12.7.1787) to 1.27.2017 will be 83,692 days. Pearl Harbor was attack exactly 154 years after 12.7.1787 on 12.7.1941. 83,692 equals 18.5 circumferences around my 'Circle of Time' (83,692 equals: 1440 diameter x Pi x 18.5 circumferences). 18.5 circumferences equals: 6,660 or 10 x 666 degrees. Thus, 10 x the number of the beast appears on 1.27.2017. The Old Testament has 23,145 verses. 4 x 23,145 = 83,692 + 8,888. 83,692 - (9 x 8,888) = 3700 which is the gematria of the 12 tribe names on the Breastplate. The diameter of my 'Circle of Time' is the 1440 minutes in a day. 6,660 minus 1 diameter of 1440 equals: 10 x 522 (the ASCII code sum for 'Jesus'). 6,660 minus 3 diameters of 1440 equals: 10 x 234 (9.11.2001 was the 234th day in office for GWB). Again, there are 469 days from 1.27.2017 to the top of my 'Circle of Time'. 4 x 69 equals the 276 saved in Paul's shipwreck. Hopefully we will be rescued from this 'shipwreck' of a world on 1.27.2017, or no later than 9.22.2017. Psalms 117 is the center chapter of the Bible. It will be 117 days from the first day of 5777 (10.2.2016) to 1.27.2017. 117 days have 2808 hours and the double digit 'DD.MM' date series for the 27th of January is 27.01. 2808 = 2701 (gematria of Genesis 1:1 + 107 (the rapture number). When 2808 is each side of a circumscribed triangle then the length of the arc opposite the golden rectangle short side within this same circle is the sum of the ASCII codes for 'Barack Hussein Obama' (1795). The sum of the Old Testament chapter numbers is 24,978. It was 24,978 days from 5.14.1948 to 10.2.2016 (Rosh Hashanah 5777). Psalms 117 has two verses: 117:1 and 117:2. The sum of the New Testament chapter numbers is 2361. 2361 + 7 = 2368 (JESUS CHRIST). 117 + 117 + 2361 = 2595 which is the total number of days in 7 prophetic years plus the additional 30 and 45 days in Daniel 12:11-12. Could this mean that the Tribulation will begin on 1.27.2017? 2361 - 117 = 2244 or 2 x 1122 (JFK assassinated on 11.22.1963). 10.2.2016 + 117 days will be 1.27.2017. Again, Psalms 117 is the center chapter of the Bible and it has two verses. 117 + 117 equals: 234. 9.11.2001 was the 234th day on office for GWB. 234 is the center value of 467 which is the center of the 'Prime Cube'. 9.11.2001 falls at the center of the 'Prime Cube'. 10.2.2016 + 117 days will be 1.27.2017. 1.27.2017 plus a second 117 days will be 5.24.2017. Thus, 5.24.2017 is the 234th day of 5777. The 66 books in Bible squared (66^2) equals: 2016 + (10 x 234). 5.24.2017 is also the 144th day of 2017. 5.24.2017 will be Iyar 28 of 5777. In 1967 Iyar 28 was June 7th, the day the Jews took control of the eastern holy sites of Jerusalem. Iyar 28 of 5776 was 6.5.2016. 11.29.2016 was the center point between Iyar 28 of 5776 and Iyar 28 of 5777. 11.29.2016 was the 69th anniversary of the day the U.N. voted for the partition of Israel on 11.29.1947. There are 39 books in the Old Testament and 27 in the New Testament. 11.29.2016 + 39 days will be 12.31.2016. 12.31.2016 + 27 days will be 1.27.2017. 1.21.2017 falls at the first point of the 'Prime Cube' 1.21.2017 is the first of the 7 inclusive day warning leading up to 1.27.2017. Again, 1.21.2017 falls at the first point of the 'Prime Cube' (79). The sum of the preceding 56 composite numbers is 2368 (JESUS CHRIST). 2368 minus this 7 day warning equals 2361 which is the sum of the chapter numbers for the New Testament.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 23, 2016 1:11:54 GMT -5
The Tick Tock Ding Dong is still trying to figure it out... "If Jewish Years 5777 and 5778 are so important, how long do we have until God Acts? Will it be the Rapture? That's MY Bet !!"
First and always, read The Divine Calendar. Google, it, free download. The author, a Jew, talks about why Jewish Year 5778 IS so important. So, Jewish Year 5777 started in early October 2016 on Rosh Hashanah. It lasts until Sept 2017. Jewish Year 5778 then starts in Sept 2017 and lasts until Sept 2018. IF Jewish Year 5778 is as important as I think........then......... At MOST we have ......... about 21 months !!! But would the Rapture come as late as Rosh Hashanah 2018?? I don't think so. Why? Because too much happens BEFORE the end of Jewish Year 5778. Like what? 1) Israel turns age 70 when? IN May, 2018. That is in about 17 months. 2) Could the Rapture be before that.....before May 2018? If so, when? It could be during Hanukkah in December 2017. Dec 12-20, 2017. That is in about 12 months. 3) Could the Rapture be before that......before Dec 2017? If so, when? It could be during Rosh Hashanah in Sept 2017. Sept 20-21-22, 2017. Why the Rapture could be on Rosh Hashanah: prophecyupdate.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-rapture-and-rosh-hashanah-heavenly.html That is in about 9 months! NINE MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4) Or you could have the "anytime Rapture" ........anytime between NOW and the end of Jewish Year 5778, in Sept 2018. (Even Hanukkah, 2016? Seems too early) So, to recap.......how long until the Rapture? 21 months? Until Rosh Hashanah, Sept 2018......the end of Jewish Year 5778. Seems too long........ 17 months? Around May 14, 2018.......when Israel turns age 70. LOTS of BIG things happened in the Bible in 70 year time-frames !! 12 months? During Hanukkah, Dec 12-20, 2017. 9 months? During Rosh Hashanah in Sept 2017. Rosh Hashanah has been a BIG "watch date" for many of us for many years now.....seems all the more important next year, as it kicks off Jewish Year 5778!! Any time? As in the Any-time Rapture??? My guess? I like the timeframe of Hanukkah, Dec 2017 and as Israel turns age 70 on May 14, 2018. Thus........ 12 to 17 months. Imagine......could the Rapture be just 12 to 17 months From now??? Could it be even earlier??? As we approach closer every month......closer and closer to Jewish Year 5778......starting Sept 2017....... I think it could get pretty exciting!!!! Imagine.....between now and then.......with Netenyahu leading Israel and Trump leading the USA........Israel will have the BEST FRIEND SHE HAS EVER HAD in the office of the President of the United States. And Trump's management style is: STIR THE POT.....KEEP Everyone GUESSING......so you can "get a better deal" ......on EVERYTHING!! What do you think this will do the countries that "love" us like...IRAN!! I don't know about you.....but I can't wait to see how God's Plans unfold over the next 12-17 months. Made even better, with Trump's election !! Tic Toc,
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 23, 2016 1:18:07 GMT -5
Here's false teacher, necromancer, and all-around loony tune, Marilyn Agee. Marilyn Agee (11 Dec 2016)
"PC (28 Feb 2012) "COULD THERE BE THREE RAPTURES?""
Hi; > > > > "COULD THERE BE THREE RAPTURES?" > > I could sure use the help of some of you gifted Bible scholars on (wacko site) to either help prove it, or blow me out of the water. I CAN CLEARLY SEE THREE RAPTURES The first took place when Jesus took the Old Testament saints to Heaven on Firstfruits in 30 AD. It looks like the other two will happen on Pentecost and Tabernacles, because the Israelites were to GO UP TO JERUSALEM those three times in the year. Exo 23:14-17 says, "Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15 Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16 And the FEAST OF HARVEST (i.e., Pentecost), the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and THE FEAST OF INGATHERING (i.e., Tabernacles) which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD." Exo 34:22 says, "And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end." Deu 16:13 says, "Thou shalt observe the feast of tabernacles seven days, after that thou hast gathered in thy corn and thy wine". THE FIRST RAPTURE TOOK PLACE ON FIRSTFRUITS IN 30 AD In 30 AD, Jesus took the Old Testament saints to heaven on Resurrection Day, the Feast of Firstfruits, omer one. Joh_20:17 says, "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." Eph_4:8 says, "When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men." The dry measure called an omer is one tenth of an ephah, which represents the church in Zec 5:9-11. Therefore, there is a good reason why the omer is counted between Firstfruits and Pentecost. Lev 23:15-17 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf (Heb. omer) of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. 17 YE SHALL BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD." Jas_1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures." THE SECOND RAPTURE, THE DAY OF CHRIST, TAKES PLACE MID-TRIB, BECAUSE MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL COMES MID-TRIB 1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now, this day, i.e., Mid-Trib) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation)." Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book." Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation) 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise-virgin saints). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish-virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." Mal 4:5,6 says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse." THE THIRD RAPTURE SEEMS TO BE ON THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD AT THE END OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION 1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump (i.e., probably on Tabernacles): for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory." Rev 11:12,13 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven." Job 5:19 says, "He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee." Joe_1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come." Mar 13:24-27 says, "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven." Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" Rev 7:9 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands". Deu 31:10-12 says, "Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, IN THE SOLEMNITY OF THE YEAR OF RELEASE, IN THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES, 11 When all Israel is come to appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose, thou shalt read this law before all Israel in their hearing. 12 GATHER THE PEOPLE together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law". CONCLUSION The three raptures seem to be on the feast of Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, and Tabernacles. Deu_16:16 Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty". Agape, Marilyn Agee ========================================= COULD THERE BE THREE RAPTURES? First off, I want to tell you that the Holy Spirit led me to these conclusions, over a period of these past couple of weeks. I have prayed and diligently searched the Bible, but mainly in was a matter of coming up with the right questions, that opened the door to the answers. For as many years as I have been studying the Bible, there was one question that I never felt I had a complete answer to. Plus, there are so many opinions, well Biblically supported, that I have changed my mind many times on this issue. I firmly believed that the Rapture would be Pre-Wrath while in Bible College, but then when I studied further I came to believe that it was definitely Pre-tribulation. Yet, the way things are going in the world, brought me back to the Pre-wrath position. The only position that did not seem to fit at all was Post-tribulation. Reading the letters here on Five Doves started me looking at the whole thing again. Especially due to all the posts about who would be going in the Rapture and who would not. And then an amazing thing occurred a few days ago…the Lord told me that all three positions are correct. That kind of blew me away, but, all of a sudden puzzle pieces just started falling into place. I am not writing this to convince anyone else to believe me, but to have peace and understanding in my own heart as to what the TRUTH is. Please bear with me, as I show how this is the best answer to my years of questions, and one that I am totally comfortable with. It just makes so much sense!!! I am simplifying this best that I can, but please do your own research and find out for yourself. Everyone is right, and everyone will go, but it is just a matter of which one a person will go in. THIS IS NOT ABOUT SALVATION, THIS IS ABOUT SANCTIFICATION!!! Every born again Christian will make it into the Kingdom of Heaven; it is just a matter of when!!! THERE ARE THREE RAPTURES, AND THEY MATCH UP WITH THE THREE HARVESTS, AND WITH THREE FEASTS DAYS. Before we get into that, I want to talk about how there are actually 7 raptures in the Bible, and the last three have to do with the end of days. The first four raptures in the Bible The first was Enoch, and this can be found in Genesis 5:24; “And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.” The second is Elijah, and that can be found in 2 Kings 2:11; “And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.” The third is Jesus Christ and that can be found in Act 1:9-11; “And when he (Yeshua, Jesus) had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.” The fourth is the Old Testament Saints, that ascend with Jesus, and that can be found in Matt 27:52-53; “And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.” THE 3 RAPTURES IN THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS The fifth is what we would consider the first at the end of days. This would be the Barley harvest. THE FIRST FRUITS OF THE BARLEY HARVEST AND THIS IS PRE-TRIBULATION!! This fifth, (first) rapture is what the apostle Paul calls a mystery in 1 Cor. 15: 51-54; “Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” All those who have died in the faith, while watching and praying and are MATURE CHRISTIANS, and all those alive who are WATCHING AND PRAYING, and are MATURE CHRISTIANS!!! This is the BRIDE OF CHRIST, and they are described in Rev.7:9-17; “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and [about] the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, [be] unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.” The Bride of Christ will rule with Him in HEAVEN. They sing a song of Worship of the LAMB. THIS HARVEST MATCHES WITH THE FEAST OF PENTECOST. ####### The sixth rapture, which would be considered the second in the Book of Revelation, is found in Rev.11:12. “And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.” THIS IS THE FIRST FRUITS OF THE WHEAT HARVEST AND IS MID-TRIBULATION. This rapture happens between the sixth and seventh trumpets and the gathering of the TWO WITNESSES, THAT ARE CALLED TO “COME UP HITHER” and the 144,000 sealed in Rev.7. In Rev. 14:1-5 we see they are in heaven, where they sing the song of MOSES AND THE SONG OF THE LAMB. Also see Rev.11:15-19 and THIS HARVEST MATCHES WITH THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS. ######## The seventh, which is the third and final rapture, is found in Rev. 12:5; “And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.” THIS IS THE GRAPE HARVEST AND IS PRE-WRATH These are all the Jewish believers that have come to the Lord after being witnessed to by the 144,000 that are already in heaven. The 144,000 are the man-child that is taken to heaven before these new believers are. We see that they are now in heaven in Rev. 15:2 “And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.” THEY SING THE SONG OF MOSES, THE SERVANT OF GOD AND THE SONG OF THE LAMB. THIS HARVEST MATCHES WITH THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES. ####### I know this all may seems strange, but the number 3 has been in my head for months, and it was not until recently that the Lord put it on my heart to search out this possibility. The above post is not extensive and I will study more throughout the Bible in the coming weeks. I could sure use the help of some of you gifted Bible scholars on Five Doves to either help prove it, or blow me out of the water. To me it makes sense and it clearly shows how so many of us could be wondering about who goes and who does not, when in actually Christ wants each and everyone one of His lost sheep, and will go to great lengths to save them all!!! At the very least, it may get some new and interesting discussions going. May the Lord bless and keep you all!!
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 24, 2016 0:03:12 GMT -5
I expect I'll be busy over the weekend, but I have a few minutes now for a Flashback Friday - Enjoy! She wants a comment? OK...lady, you're nuts.
12 Dec 2002)
"Vision??"I think this may have been a vision, I would appreciate if someone could comment on this. I had not been feeling well and decided to go back to bed after rising Tuesday morning about 3:00am. I lay back down about 10:00am --just shut my eyes and then I saw an all black back ground with a Red Star of David in the center of the back ground, then to the left below the Star was a Red Flower with beautiful thousands of ribbons of sparkling florescent light coming out of the center of the flower, the ribbons of light seem to be blowing gracefully and smoothly by a wind but yet staying in place and straight. Then to my left I saw the shadow of mountains beginning to appear as dawn seem to be coming up behind the mountains but the light of dawn began to get brighter and brighter untill I could not stand the brightness , it was hurting my eyes so I opened my eyes and that was all Isaw , I shut my eyes again but it was not there anymore. This is the first time I have experienced any thing like this. If any one can shed some light on this ? Please respond.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 24, 2016 0:08:30 GMT -5
Another hot mess from wacko Marilyn Agee. Hard to imagine that anyone would follow her...but they do!
(30 Nov 2005)
"Re: Rapture and the pillars of salt!"
From: Marilyn Agee
Hi: > > Luke 17:32 "Remember Lot's wife". Why would Yeshua command rememberance of such an event. BECAUSE LOT's DEPARTURE WAS A SPRINGTIME EVENT, as was the Departure from Egypt, as was the departure (return from exile) from Babylon (See Ezra, Neh.), as will likely be the rapture. I think the Pre-Trib Rapture is as the days of Noah, and the Pre-Wrath Rapture is as the days of Lot. The second Rapture is in the fall, on the Feast of Trumpets. In Luke 17:22-29, Jesus said, "The days will come, when ye shall desire to see ONE OF THE DAYS OF THE SON OF MAN (i.e., one of the two Raptures), and ye shall not see it (i.e., get left behind like the foolish virgins, Mt. 25:1f; Luke 12:46). And they shall say to you (i.e., the Tribulation saints), See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. For AS THE LIGHTNING, THAT LIGHTENETH OUT OF THE ONE PART UNDER HEAVEN , SHINETH UNTO THE OTHER PART UNDER HEAVEN, SO SHALL ALSO THE SON OF MAN BE IN HIS DAY (THE DAY OF THE LORD WHEN THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IS SEEN, Mt. 24:30, Rev. 6:12f). But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. And AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH (first Rapture), so shall it be also ! in the days of the Son of man ("days", plural, i.e., the two Raptures). They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF LOT (second Rapture); they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; BUT THE SAME DAY THAT LOT WENT OUT OF SODOM IT RAINED FIRE AND BRIMSTONE FROM HEAVEN, and destroyed them all." In the days of Noah, it rained water from the heavens. In the days of Lot, it rained fire and brimstone from the heavens. Two different times are depicted, one before the Tribulation, the other on the Feast of Trumpets, the great and terrible Day of the Lord. The days of Lot are like the day the two asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10 impact Earth on that Day of Destruction. Fire and brimstone will fall.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 24, 2016 0:11:43 GMT -5
Yet another nut obsessed with the number 11... (9 Nov 2005)
"11 Days to Kadeshbarnea, 1st Day of 11th Month"
This information may have to do with the children of Israel reaching their status as a multitude like the stars of the heavens and when Moses spoke to them saying they should go claim their lands. Maybe someone will be speaking to the children of Israel about a sudden change of plans, soon? I have been seeing the 11's for a couple of years now. Just a couple of weeks ago it increased dramatically and last week I asked the Lord again about what this may mean. No immediate answer came to me. Monday night, Nov 7, I was pleading in prayer and tears to know the cause and reason for my infertility. Earlier that morning I had found out I didn't respond to yet a 3rd medication to promote ovulation and would have to move on to injectible FSH hormone. I could not sleep and so I opened the Bible to Deuteronomy - Chapter 1. For whatever reason I felt like I ought to read OT and flipped to the stuck-on tab for this chapter. I didn't get an answer about the infertility but I think I may have got a pointer of some sort to the 11's as a consolation of sorts or at least something to redirect my thoughts. Someone had written 5D that 11:11 and 1:11 were a date and a time. That seemed to be impressed upon me as a strong feeling as I read the beginning of Deuteronomy. I felt like I should tell someone. But then tonight, Nov 8th I read Richard's Y2K comment and recalled that I had just seen that place name the other night. I also recalled an evening a couple of years ago when my husband and I were walking the dogs and saw a huge white fireball of sparks shoot across the street in front of us. I'm sure it was a meteor of some sort but we were the only 2 that saw it as we live in a rural Appalachia and everyone nearby had their lights out. If he had not seen it I'm sure he wouldn't have believed my description. Richard's comment: â?oThe Jews are at Kadesh Barneaâ??. I wonder if Joe Viel or TEFE can tell us anything more about this time at Kadesh Barnea? Note the "quotes" around items of interest. The only other time I wrote 5D was about the sudden world focus on marriage rights and the Jewish wedding ceremonies shadowing the rapture, etc. Deuteronomy "1:1" These [be] the words which Moses spake unto all Israel on this side Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain over against the Red [sea], between Paran, and Tophel, and Laban, and Hazeroth, and Dizahab. 1:2 ([There are] "eleven days'" [journey] from Horeb by the way of mount Seir unto "Kadeshbarnea.") 1:3 And it came to pass in the "fortieth year," in the "eleventh month," on the "first [day] of the month," [that] Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the LORD had given him in commandment unto them; 1:4 After he had slain Sihon the king of the Amorites, which dwelt in Heshbon, and Og the king of Bashan, which dwelt at Astaroth in Edrei: 1:5 On this side Jordan, in the land of Moab, began Moses to declare this law, saying, 1:6 The LORD our God spake unto us in Horeb, saying, Ye have dwelt long enough in this mount: 1:7 Turn you, and take your journey, and go to the mount of the Amorites, and unto all [the places] nigh thereunto, in the plain, in the hills, and in the vale, and in the south, and by the sea side, to the land of the Canaanites, and unto Lebanon, unto the great river, the river Euphrates. 1:8 Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them. 1:9 And I spake unto you at that time, saying, I am not able to bear you myself alone: 1:10 The LORD your God hath multiplied you, and, behold, ye [are] this day as the stars of heaven for multitude.
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