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Post by popcorn on Oct 22, 2012 5:38:35 GMT -5
FEMA Orders 102,000 Box Cars With Shackles! Martial Law! Surprise!
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Post by baydoll on Oct 22, 2012 8:04:00 GMT -5
Yeah, we all knew this was coming. Shades of Nazi Germany here we come.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Oct 22, 2012 20:57:51 GMT -5
I'm moving this to Tin Hats, because it's speculation & sensationalism, along the lines of the guillotines that I've been hearing about for the last 20 years. No wonder so many people think Christians who believe in the End Times are nuts! Here's a picture of these so-called "prison boxcars" - Now, as someone responded on a blog where I saw a post about these things (including the photograph of them), there's a reasonable explanation, following the blog post: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars With Shackles! THE FACTS-GUNDERSON PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES-A REPORT Here is a summary of the previous information circulating about Gunderson’s PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES from previous reports circulating all over the nation on this subject, which I have written. BRENT GUNDERSON is challenging my information. CAN YOU PROVE HIM WRONG??? Many people have raised skeptical questions about reports of prisoner BOXCARS AND SHACKLES being sighted across America. Some people think that they are only reported originally through Phil Schnieder in a Patriot interview. Recently, someone erroneously reported that MY information on them originated from Phil Schnieder. WRONG! My research and documentation on the boxcars and shackles goes far beyond Phil´s interview. Long before I heard of him, I had eyewitness information on these boxcars. A van full of eyewitnesses, missionaries traveling across America to evangelize and pray, stumbled across these boxcars in Montana, near Columbia Falls in Glacier. They described boxcars, in this case painted black, with shackles welded into them and a modern guillotine at the head of each boxcar inside. As they were photographing mountain scenery, they decided to follow railroad tracks into the wilderness so as to not get lost. This is how they came upon these boxcars with shackles. I later received a report from Lee Harrington of Valier, MT, who was a professional metal worker. He told me how in Glascow, MT, summer youth workers were employed to weld shackles into boxcars in that operation. They were then shipped west to Glacier and stored on remote sidetracks. Passing through the Blackfoot Indian Reservation in Cutbank, a local Blackfoot Indian, George Bullcalf, spotted these strange boxcars. When I interviewed local Patriots in Columbia Falls, they confirmed that hunters often stumbled upon such boxcars on remote train spurs in that wilderness region. I THEN TRAVELED TO PORTLAND OREGON, and lectured in the home of an actual employee of GUNDERSON STEEL FABRICATION. The wife of this high level executive called this meeting personally to make a public admission. In the meeting were OTHER GUNDERSON EMPLOYEES who had witnessed the prisoner boxcars in the higher than normal, three floor/three tier prisoner boxcars. She admitted that her husband finally told her that GUNDERSON WAS UNDER SECRET CONTRACT FROM THE US GOVERNMENT TO PRODUCE THESE PRISONER BOXCARS. She also admitted that Gunderson had a satellite factory for a boxcars with shackles operation in Texas. I called Col. Jim Ammerman in Texas, famous military Patriot-lecturer against martial law, and told him about this. He replied, “A friend of mine who is a metal welder called me recently, and said he had gone to apply for a job in offered in Texas for welding. When he was told that it involved WELDING SHACKLES INTO BOXCARS, he declined the job!” I later interviewed Russian immigrants in this area who admitted that some of their people were working at Gunderson, and one young man, Sasha, admitted working on prisoner boxcars and described them completely to his Russian Christian friends there. THE RUSSIAN COMMMUNITY NOW KNOWS ABOUT THEM AND IS VERY AFRAID OF THE IMPLICATIONS!!! Many Russians still work there. Another source, WATCHDOG, a retired military vet with a watchdog group, described yet another boxcar with shackles operation in New Hampshire, with three tiered boxcars fitted with shackles. Metal worker Lee Harrington also described 20,000 CHINESE prisoner boxcars with shackles and modern guillotines, in the form of 40 foot railroad containers, coming into America via the west coast. They were ordered by the American government through a Senator who visited China and ordered these items. Workers unloading them became suspicious and began to investigate and discovered these horrors from China. Such 40 foot cargo containers from China are now piled up along the West Coast, especially around Long Beach Naval Shipyard, turned over the Chinese. I receive constant reports across America regarding these types of prisoner boxcars from former radio listeners and Patriots across America…and Canada. Recently, a former high level satanist from the mountains of North Carolina, now a Christian and receiving discipleship, admitted that boxcars with shackles were indeed in the mountains of NC and waiting for the hour of martial law. (Asheville, NC) He warned that many Patriots and Christians arrested and secured into these prisoner boxcars under martial law will never even make it to the death camps..that many will be tortured and sacrificed once restrained in these prisoner boxcars. Sane response: The pictured rail car is an Auto-Max articulated auto rack, meaning it's used to deliver automobiles and light trucks from factory or port to distribution hub. The car is two units with a rubber diaphragm between and a common wheelset (truck) in a design intended to reduce slack between cars. Each of these cars is approximately 110 feet long. The sides are not sealed, they're only enclosed enough to prevent vandalism and theft to automobiles inside. 102,000 of these cars would require 2,125 miles of track to store them on. They could not be hidden. Even if one assumes these cars were conventional modern 60 foot cars, they would still require 1160 miles of track for storage. In other words, in one unbroken line they would stretch from New York City to at least Chicago, or well into Florida. As auto-racks, they would stretch even further. An automobile being shipped in one of these cars needs to be tied down. Trains stop and start with a great deal of force, and should a train need to apply an emergency brake application, or crest a grade with poor handling, the slack could run in (or back out) and by the time the autos arrive they would all be smashed up. Could the "shackles" simply be tie downs for specific types of automobile? I see no mention is made of where they are installed in the cars. Modern railroads have been on a mission to reduce capacity for over 50 years. Trying to store this volume of cars would overwhelm them. Sure, you could put short strings on unused lines all over, but that doesn't come free - it's a few dollars a day to store a car. Railroads don't have a lot of choice where these locations would be, either - they're not going to tie up their railroad storing them on tracks they need for operation, so they go where ever tracks are not being used; these days there are fewer and fewer of these tracks. Such storage is unsecured, meaning anyone could come along and take actual photos of these shackles to share, should they choose to open a car up. Bombs could be hidden on them, or inside them. Handcuff keys could be hidden inside them. And bottom line, someone would know where they are, a train would have to deliver them to a storage location. Often people who live near places where cars are stored long-term complain about them being there. Every railroad car that moves in interchange and every shipping container that's in service in the US has some kind of ID markings, railroad cars use a "reporting mark" that is two, three, or four letters; containers I believe are all four letters. What are the markings on these strange cars? They should be able to be traced to a registered owner or lessor. Same goes for the containers. Black boxcars would stick out like a sore thumb. Very few boxcars are painted black these days. Only certain open top cars (gondolas, coal hoppers) and tank cars are commonly painted black. Although it's entirely possible a missionary wouldn't know the locomotive from a caboose to know the difference. I'm all for sharing information, but do some homework before you post this kind of stuff, when you post things I can blow big holes in in just a few seconds it doesn't help your cause. If these cars are out there, they should easily be able to be found, photographed, and traced. www.project.nsearch.com/profiles/blogs/fema-ordered-102-000-boxcars-with-shackles
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