Willow Creek takes you back home to Rome
Aug 13, 2013 6:10:45 GMT -5
Post by popcorn on Aug 13, 2013 6:10:45 GMT -5
Willow Creek takes you back home to Rome
Now people visiting Rome will ask, where was the Apostle Peter imprisoned and buried
These are the words of pastor Andy Stanley in the Willow Creek movement. He spoke to church leaders during the last session of the Global Ledership Summit on Friday.
Stanley wondered aloud, in front of the audience of about 75,000 people watching from sites all across America, if Paul could have imagined on the way to his execution that one day the Roman Empire would fall but Christianity would remain.
Could he have imagined, Stanley asked, that people would travel to Rome and ask not where the ancient emperors are buried, but ask where he was imprisoned and where the Apostle Peter is buried? Or did he wonder if the church would be “snuffed out” like his own life would soon be?
Stanley then took a moment to address discouraged church leaders, and reminded them that Christ will build his church with these words: “In your most discouraging moment, and the time when you think it’s not working, that it is all in vain…there is a cross hanging over the Emperor’s Gate in the Roman Colosseum.”
Stanley’s message concluded the two-day event, which was broadcast from Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Ill., to more than 230 locations throughout the U.S. Later this year, an estimated 100,000 people across 100 different nations will watch the messages presented this week.
Source: Christian Post
My comment:
It is sad that the Willow Creek movement spread Catholic mythology and Papal dogmas. If you accept the Roman Catholic claim that the Apostle Peter was imprisoned, crucified and buried in Rome, you are on the edge of submitting to the Papacy.
Because the so-called Petrine theology of the Vatican movement stands and falls, on the claim that the Pope is a successor of Peter. And sine the Pope also preach about “Jesus”, the logic of this Willow Creek pastor, is that Rome must be a true Church.
And since the Vatican is the head of a true Church, why don’t accept the Popes leading role in bringing all Christians into unity?
The truth is that there is no evidence what so ever that Peter even traveled to Rome. This idea was launched in the pagan empire in Rome, who wanted to have the leading role within Christendom. An heretical apocrypha was written, to please the emperor and his pope, claiming that Peter was crucified in Rome, on an up side down cross. The whole foundation of the Roman Catholic Church is built on this falsehood.
If a lie is told hundred million times, it is still a lie. Even if 100.000 leaders of the Willow Creek Movement joins this fabrication of Church history.
Second: Do Willow Creek know where Jerusalem is located?
And the graves inside Israel, of both the patriarchs and some apostles?
Is the city of David less important than the seat of the claimed “Holy father”?
You can not have it both ways. Either you will be on your way home to Rome, or you will stand with a united Jerusalem.
Jesus of the Bible is surely building His church. False Churches are built by copycat Messiah’s, like “Jesus of Rome”.
Written by Ivar
source:
ivarfjeld.com/2013/08/13/willow-creek-takes-you-back-home-to-rome/
Now people visiting Rome will ask, where was the Apostle Peter imprisoned and buried
These are the words of pastor Andy Stanley in the Willow Creek movement. He spoke to church leaders during the last session of the Global Ledership Summit on Friday.
Stanley wondered aloud, in front of the audience of about 75,000 people watching from sites all across America, if Paul could have imagined on the way to his execution that one day the Roman Empire would fall but Christianity would remain.
Could he have imagined, Stanley asked, that people would travel to Rome and ask not where the ancient emperors are buried, but ask where he was imprisoned and where the Apostle Peter is buried? Or did he wonder if the church would be “snuffed out” like his own life would soon be?
Stanley then took a moment to address discouraged church leaders, and reminded them that Christ will build his church with these words: “In your most discouraging moment, and the time when you think it’s not working, that it is all in vain…there is a cross hanging over the Emperor’s Gate in the Roman Colosseum.”
Stanley’s message concluded the two-day event, which was broadcast from Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Ill., to more than 230 locations throughout the U.S. Later this year, an estimated 100,000 people across 100 different nations will watch the messages presented this week.
Source: Christian Post
My comment:
It is sad that the Willow Creek movement spread Catholic mythology and Papal dogmas. If you accept the Roman Catholic claim that the Apostle Peter was imprisoned, crucified and buried in Rome, you are on the edge of submitting to the Papacy.
Because the so-called Petrine theology of the Vatican movement stands and falls, on the claim that the Pope is a successor of Peter. And sine the Pope also preach about “Jesus”, the logic of this Willow Creek pastor, is that Rome must be a true Church.
And since the Vatican is the head of a true Church, why don’t accept the Popes leading role in bringing all Christians into unity?
The truth is that there is no evidence what so ever that Peter even traveled to Rome. This idea was launched in the pagan empire in Rome, who wanted to have the leading role within Christendom. An heretical apocrypha was written, to please the emperor and his pope, claiming that Peter was crucified in Rome, on an up side down cross. The whole foundation of the Roman Catholic Church is built on this falsehood.
If a lie is told hundred million times, it is still a lie. Even if 100.000 leaders of the Willow Creek Movement joins this fabrication of Church history.
Second: Do Willow Creek know where Jerusalem is located?
And the graves inside Israel, of both the patriarchs and some apostles?
Is the city of David less important than the seat of the claimed “Holy father”?
You can not have it both ways. Either you will be on your way home to Rome, or you will stand with a united Jerusalem.
Jesus of the Bible is surely building His church. False Churches are built by copycat Messiah’s, like “Jesus of Rome”.
Written by Ivar
source:
ivarfjeld.com/2013/08/13/willow-creek-takes-you-back-home-to-rome/
Even worse, being a "pastor" himself he's spreading his false doctrines and false gospel and leading people straight to hell, since I'm sure a lot of them think he's OK, being the son of Charles Stanley. I wonder how his father feels... 
