1000s travel to Jerusalem to witness “Holy Fire"
Apr 21, 2012 17:40:37 GMT -5
Post by PrisonerOfHope on Apr 21, 2012 17:40:37 GMT -5
Somehow, seeing those people in a cave, with flames all around, made me think of hell more than anything else...
Thousands travel to Jerusalem to witness “Holy Fire”
Posted on April 17, 2012 by sueliz1
People flock to Jerusalem to see the flames that come from the tomb of Jesus, that are not lit with a match or any igniting device.
The people rejoice that the miracle has occurred again. The men put the flames to their beards and are not burned. The people “wash” themselves with “holy fire.“
The Holy Fire ritual has been going on for centuries. Every year, the Saturday before Easter, an Orthodox priest enters the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem, says some specific prayers and suddenly a fire appears out of no where inside the tomb. He ignites his candle and shares it with the thousands outside, waiting to get a glimpse of the miracle inside.
The ceremony is observed only by the Eastern Orthodox churches, Syrian, Armenian, Russian and Greek Orthodox as well as Copts. Catholics and Protestants do not participate.
The first known written account of the Holy Fire dates from the 4th century while other accounts from 1106 and 1107 by the Russian Abbot Daniel describe a similar ceremony.
Only an Orthodox priest has the ability to pray for the fire. When Catholic priests and others have tried, the fire does not ignite. Many Orthodox claim, this proves that their religion is the true religion, and that God will only listen to an Orthodox priest.
Before the priest enters the tomb, the Israeli police search him and make sure that there is nothing on his person that could start a fire. An Orthodox Patriarch explains the sequence:
“I enter the tomb and kneel in holy fear in front of the place where Christ lay after His death and where He rose again from the dead… (narrates Orthodox Patriarch Diodor – ed.). I find my way through the darkness towards the inner chamber in which I fall on my knees.Miracle of God. At a certain point the light rises and forms a column in which the fire is of a different nature… See also a line of lights at bottom-left Here I say certain prayers that have been handed down to us through the centuries and, having said them, I wait. Sometimes I may wait a few minutes, but normally the miracle happens immediately after I have said the prayers. From the core of the very stone on which Jesus lay an indefinable light pours forth. It usually has a blue tint, but the color may change and take many different hues. It cannot be described in human terms. The light rises out of the stone as mist may rise out of a lake — it almost looks as if the stone is covered by a moist cloud, but it is light. This light each year behaves differently. Sometimes it covers just the stone, while other times it gives light to the whole sepulchre, so that people who stand outside the tomb and look into it will see it filled with light. The light does not burn — I have never had my beard burnt in all the sixteen years I have been Patriarch in Jerusalem and have received the Holy Fire. The light is of a different consistency than normal fire that burns in an oil lamp… At a certain point the light rises and forms a column in which the fire is of a different nature, so that I am able to light my candles from it. When I thus have received the flame on my candles, I go out and give the fire first to the Armenian Patriarch and then to the Coptic. Hereafter I give the flame to all people present in the Church.”
Please watch this clip of the people cheering as they light their candles with the fire from the tomb:
Here is a six second clip, posted by a witch on youtube, showing how the fire does not burn:
Sources: christianpost, jerusalempost, holyfire.org
My Comment:
The first video shows an almost-mass-hysteria. The people are positively manic over these flames deemed miraculous. The atmosphere seems rather chaotic and disordered. People test the fire by putting it to their hair and body.
I don’t doubt the supernatural here. But from which rehelm is the question. The priest must say a specific prayer to ignite this fire. Almost like a formula or spell. Only an Orthodox may say it. What kind of witchcraft is this?
I do not believe this miracle is from Jesus, but that it is rather a false miracle. This falsehood attracts many people. I’m sure people of all religions. This wicked generation demands a sign. And they’ve got it. Fire from heaven. I could see many faiths accepting this phenomenon and perhaps accepting the source behind it.
If you are tempted to follow signs and wonders, stop and think. The greatest miracle is that Jesus offers salvation to all who ask Him to be their savior. Everything else is distraction. I’m not saying I don’t believe in miracles. I absolutely do. But “miracles” of this sort seem to all be about a big show.
Go into your room, shut the door and in secret pray to the One who gives Life. Let Him be your Lord and King and save you from your sins. This is the miracle of miracles.
Revelation 13:12-14
It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
sueliz1.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/thousands-travel-to-jerusalem-to-witness-holy-fire/
Thousands travel to Jerusalem to witness “Holy Fire”
Posted on April 17, 2012 by sueliz1
People flock to Jerusalem to see the flames that come from the tomb of Jesus, that are not lit with a match or any igniting device.
The people rejoice that the miracle has occurred again. The men put the flames to their beards and are not burned. The people “wash” themselves with “holy fire.“
The Holy Fire ritual has been going on for centuries. Every year, the Saturday before Easter, an Orthodox priest enters the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem, says some specific prayers and suddenly a fire appears out of no where inside the tomb. He ignites his candle and shares it with the thousands outside, waiting to get a glimpse of the miracle inside.
The ceremony is observed only by the Eastern Orthodox churches, Syrian, Armenian, Russian and Greek Orthodox as well as Copts. Catholics and Protestants do not participate.
The first known written account of the Holy Fire dates from the 4th century while other accounts from 1106 and 1107 by the Russian Abbot Daniel describe a similar ceremony.
Only an Orthodox priest has the ability to pray for the fire. When Catholic priests and others have tried, the fire does not ignite. Many Orthodox claim, this proves that their religion is the true religion, and that God will only listen to an Orthodox priest.
Before the priest enters the tomb, the Israeli police search him and make sure that there is nothing on his person that could start a fire. An Orthodox Patriarch explains the sequence:
“I enter the tomb and kneel in holy fear in front of the place where Christ lay after His death and where He rose again from the dead… (narrates Orthodox Patriarch Diodor – ed.). I find my way through the darkness towards the inner chamber in which I fall on my knees.Miracle of God. At a certain point the light rises and forms a column in which the fire is of a different nature… See also a line of lights at bottom-left Here I say certain prayers that have been handed down to us through the centuries and, having said them, I wait. Sometimes I may wait a few minutes, but normally the miracle happens immediately after I have said the prayers. From the core of the very stone on which Jesus lay an indefinable light pours forth. It usually has a blue tint, but the color may change and take many different hues. It cannot be described in human terms. The light rises out of the stone as mist may rise out of a lake — it almost looks as if the stone is covered by a moist cloud, but it is light. This light each year behaves differently. Sometimes it covers just the stone, while other times it gives light to the whole sepulchre, so that people who stand outside the tomb and look into it will see it filled with light. The light does not burn — I have never had my beard burnt in all the sixteen years I have been Patriarch in Jerusalem and have received the Holy Fire. The light is of a different consistency than normal fire that burns in an oil lamp… At a certain point the light rises and forms a column in which the fire is of a different nature, so that I am able to light my candles from it. When I thus have received the flame on my candles, I go out and give the fire first to the Armenian Patriarch and then to the Coptic. Hereafter I give the flame to all people present in the Church.”
Please watch this clip of the people cheering as they light their candles with the fire from the tomb:
Here is a six second clip, posted by a witch on youtube, showing how the fire does not burn:
Sources: christianpost, jerusalempost, holyfire.org
My Comment:
The first video shows an almost-mass-hysteria. The people are positively manic over these flames deemed miraculous. The atmosphere seems rather chaotic and disordered. People test the fire by putting it to their hair and body.
I don’t doubt the supernatural here. But from which rehelm is the question. The priest must say a specific prayer to ignite this fire. Almost like a formula or spell. Only an Orthodox may say it. What kind of witchcraft is this?
I do not believe this miracle is from Jesus, but that it is rather a false miracle. This falsehood attracts many people. I’m sure people of all religions. This wicked generation demands a sign. And they’ve got it. Fire from heaven. I could see many faiths accepting this phenomenon and perhaps accepting the source behind it.
If you are tempted to follow signs and wonders, stop and think. The greatest miracle is that Jesus offers salvation to all who ask Him to be their savior. Everything else is distraction. I’m not saying I don’t believe in miracles. I absolutely do. But “miracles” of this sort seem to all be about a big show.
Go into your room, shut the door and in secret pray to the One who gives Life. Let Him be your Lord and King and save you from your sins. This is the miracle of miracles.
Revelation 13:12-14
It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
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