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Neither Nibiru nor a doomsday comet named Elenin holds up under scientific scrutiny



July 25, 2011 – SPACE –I think there is an agenda out there and one of the reasons for the spreading of fables about space threats is to dilute the reality of what is actually transpiring in the world around us. The first one is that Elenin is a doomsday comet and the largest comet we’ve ever seen and it causes earthquakes by its alignments. False- The largest comet ever discovered by scientists was Comet Sarabat or the Great Comet of 1729. Wikipedia says: “The Comet of 1729, also known as C/1729 P1 or Comet Sarabat, was a non-periodic comet with an absolute magnitude of −3, the brightest ever observed for a comet; it is therefore considered to be the largest comet ever seen.” By contrast, the Hale-Bopp comet had a magnitude -1.3. Comet Elenin should be at its brightest shortly before the time of its closest approach to Earth on Oct. 16 of this year. At its closest point, it will be 35 million kilometers (22 million miles) from us. How many major earthquakes occurred in the year 1729? None. The worst earthquake to even occur 20 years close to 1729 was the Lisbon earthquake of 1750. Comets do not cause earthquakes no more than Jupiter causes earthquakes. Astronomer Ian Musgrave: Will Comet Elenin Hit Earth? No, its closest approach is 0.23 AU on Oct 16, 2011, where 1 AU is the distance from the Earth to the Sun. To put this in perspective, this is only a little closer than the closest approach of Venus to Earth, and roughly 100 times the distance from the Earth to the Moon. Will it Cause Earthquakes, Abnormally High Tides or Other Disasters? No, Elenin is a mere 3-5 kilometres across and has less than a billionth of the tidal force of the Moon at closest approach (as well as a negligible magnetic field). If the Moon can’t cause the poles to tip, cause massive tidal floods or earthquakes, Comet 2010 X1 Elenin won’t. We’ve been closer to other comets before with no ill effect.
Is Elenin a Moon of a Brown Dwarf Star? No. But Brown Dwarf Stars are so Cold, you Can’t See Them. No, coldest detected so far is ~370K (about the temperature of a hot cup of tea), the the warmest are around 2200 K, and most range between 500-1000 K. They may not produce much visible light, but they reflect light. Jupiter has a composition similar to those of Brown Dwarf stars. Jupiter’s cloud tops are a chilly 128 K and it reflects light just fine. Any Brown Dwarf in the inner solar system would be painfully obvious. I Saw Comet Elenin Near the Sun in August 2010/Now: In August 2010 only really powerful telescopes could see Elenin. You saw Venus. If you are seeing something bright near the Sun in the morning sky now, it’s Venus. But it’s bigger than Jupiter! No, that’s the coma , the thin haze of gas and dust that surrounds the comet nucleus. The nucleus of C/2010 X1 Elenin is roughly 3-4 Km in diameter and Elenin has a coma around 50,000 km wide at the time of writing (which is a third of the diameter of Jupiter). The average density of the coma is about the same as the density of the atmosphere on the Moon. A coma is a feature of all comets that approach the Sun closely, for example comet 81P Wild (nucleus 4 Km diameter) had a coma of 50,000 Km and 103P Hartley had a coma of 150,000 Km. The Great Comet of 1811 had a nucleus of around 30km in diameter and had a coma nearly as big as the Sun. Comet Halley is 6×15 km and had a coma 100,000 km wide when it last approached Earth. We survived them all (and 103P Hartley came nearly twice as close as Elenin will), and we will survive Elenin without incident. –Universe Today
9-11 is encoded in the name of the comet Elenin. What does that mean? The comet was named after the man who discovered it- Leonid Elenin. If the name was encoded at birth, his parents probably knew the comet was coming before he did. Discussion about comet Elenin from people like Richard Hoagland has switched from science to the paranormal, citing the comet is being guided by an ‘intelligent influence.’ So this agenda, like the Annunkai, who are supposed to be riding the fabled Nibiru, is all about the alien agenda and fallen demonic angels setting the Earth up for the appearance of this creatures who are under the tuteledge of Satan. Revelation 12:9

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so have we all been sucked in or is this dis-information?

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I guess time will tell!



Believers in Mysterious Planet Nibiru, Comet Elenin Await Earth's End

By Natalie Wolchover

Published July 24, 2011

| Space.com


Renowned astrophysicist Carl Sagan once described a "baloney detection kit" — a set of tools that skeptical thinkers use to investigate any new concept. A few of the key tools include a healthy distrust of information that isn't independently verified, critically assessing an idea rather than becoming irrationally attached to it simply because it's intriguing, and a preference for simple explanations over wildly speculative ones.

The waxing obsession with the planet Nibiru , which conspiracy theorists say is a planet swinging in from the outskirts of our solar system that is going to crash into Earth and wipe out humanity in 2012 — or, in some opinions, 2011 — shows that an astonishing number of people "are watching YouTube videos and visiting slick websites with nothing in their skeptical toolkit," in the words of David Morrison, a planetary astronomer at NASA Ames Research Center and senior scientist at the NASA Astrobiology Institute.

Morrison estimates that there are 2 million websites discussing the impending Nibiru-Earth collision. He receives, on average, five email inquiries about Nibiru every day.

"At least a once a week I get a message from a young person — as young as 11 — who says they are ill and/or contemplating suicide because of the coming doomsday," Morrison told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to SPACE.com.

What's the origin of this mass panic about Nibiru, which astronomers say doesn't exist?

A suspect origin

The idea that doomsday will result from a planetary collision was first proposed in 1995 by Nancy Lieder, a self-described "contactee." Lieder claims she has the ability to receive messages through an implant in her brain from aliens in the Zeta Reticuli star system. On her website, ZetaTalk, she stated that she was chosen to warn mankind of an impending planetary collision which would wipe out humanity in May 2003. (When no such cataclysmic event occurred, Lieder's followers chose 2012 as the new date for the Nibiru collision, which coincides neatly with other doomsday prophecies focused on the ending of the Mayan calendar.) [Doomsday Facts (or Fictions)]

Lieder originally called the bringer of doom "Planet X," and later connected it to a planet that was hypothesized to exist by a writer named Zecharia Sitchin in his book "The 12th Planet" (Harper 1976). According to Sitchin (1920-2010), the ancient Sumerians wrote about a giant planet called Nibiru — the "twelfth planet" in the solar system, after the other planets (including Pluto), the sun and moon — which has an oblong orbit that swings near Earth every 3,600 years. Humans actually evolved on Nibiru, he said, and colonized this planet during a previous flyby.

Historians and language scholars say that Stitchin grossly mistranslated ancient texts. The Sumerians did indeed believe in a cosmology involving planets; however they thought there were five planets, not 12, and they did not believe that humans hopped to Earth from a place called Nibiru. Furthermore, astronomers have pointed out that a planetary orbit like the one Sitchin proposed for Nibiru is impossible: No celestial body could maintain a stable orbit that swings it through the inner solar system every 3,600 years and keeps it beyond Pluto the rest of the time. The body would quickly get sucked in or pushed out.

Nonetheless, Sitchin's books have been translated into 25 languages and sold millions of copies worldwide. Lieder's planetary collision theory has adopted the name of Nibiru for Earth's planetary nemesis. Many people who believe that doomsday will occur when the Mayan calendar ends in 2012 have adopted Lieder's Nibiru collision prophecy as the cataclysm that will bring us to that end.

Missing planet

The biggest missing link in the doomsday prophecy is Nibiru itself. Because no giant, rogue planet has been found in the outer solar system to play the role of Nibiru, some conspiracy theorists have decided that a small comet called Elenin " href="/cms/articles/11617-comet-elenin-wimpy-solar-system">comet called Elenin (which will pass nearest Earth in October 2011) is actually Nibiru. Even then, though, scientists say Elenin will come no closer than 100 times farther than the distance from Earth to the moon. [What If Our Solar System Formed Closer to Milky Way's Edge?]

"The fact is that these folks are constantly changing their story," Morrison wrote in an email. "For some, Nibiru is no longer the Sumerian god or planet that is supposed to be returning to Earth in late 2012. It has become a catchword for almost any cosmic catastrophe."

Internet rumors about Elenin began spreading earlier this year. Its approach to Earth was blamed for shifting the Earth's axis by 3 degrees in February, precipitating the Chile earthquake, then shifting the pole even more to trigger the Japan quake in March. "Ignoring plate tectonics as the cause of earthquakes, they suggest that the comet exerted strong gravitational or electromagnetic effects on our planet," Morrison wrote.

When scientists pointed out that the comet is a mere 3-mile-wide glob of ice with no magnetic field and that it won't even pass very near Earth — and that plate tectonics, not comets, cause earthquakes — rumors began to circulate that NASA was withholding information about Elenin.

"Ironically, the inconspicuous nature of this comet plays into some of the conspiracy theories," Morrison pointed out. "For people who are convinced the comet did cause the earthquakes, this proves that Elenin is not a comet at all, but a much more massive, and dangerous, interloper." Conspiracy theorists began speculating that the comet is Nibiru in disguise — a planet or even an enormous brown dwarf star.

In fact, Elenin is a textbook comet; it has visible "coma," or nucleus, and a long tail made of vaporizing ice. [What's the Difference Between an Asteroid and a Comet?]

If it were a brown dwarf, "it would not have a coma or tail, because the gas cannot escape from an object with substantial gravity. In addition, if it were massive we would be seeing its gravitational influence on the orbits of the planets, especially Mars and Earth, but there is no change in these orbits," Morrison wrote. "Finally, if it were a brown dwarf it would have been easily detected in various previous astronomical surveys, including the recent WISE infrared mission, even when it was still in the outer solar system," he wrote.

The fact that the comet isn't headed our way is overlooked by most conspiracy theorists, while others say its path is going to change. "[Some] websites suggest that the comet is accompanied by a giant UFO, which controls its orbit," Morrison told us; in effect, who cares if Elenin doesn't seem to be headed in our direction — it'll be steered here.

Distinguishing truth from lies

Morrison offered some advice to those who are interested in astronomy or are worried about impending collisions. "If it is real, it is likely to be in regular news media, not just posted on some website," he told us. Furthermore, "not everyone who claims on YouTube to be a scientist or an employee of NASA is. But there is no simple way to distinguish truth from lies."

The Nibiru conspiracies are so nonsensical that Morrison wonders whether even their purveyors believe them. Because many websites sell Nibiru books, tapes and even "survival kits," Morrison thinks they are purposely taking advantage of people who aren't able to distinguish credible sources from crackpot ones. "This is especially a problem for young people, which is why I am so angry at those who target children," he said.

Read more: www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/07/24/believers-in-mysterious-planet-nibiru-comet-elenin-await-earths-end/#ixzz1TAGNZu6F

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You know, if there's nothing to this, why aren't all the media telling us that? Could it be that no one really knows what the effect will be?

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Asteroid 2005 YU55 Meets Comet Elenin's (Second Sun) Debris Tail at Earth on Nov 9, 2011


One of those "Hmmmm....." things.

Disclaimer: I don't think much of Pat Robertson or his opinion, and he's also a Postie. This is here just so you can contemplate the possibilities.

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WOW has he read the bible? lets see he says an asteroid took out the dinosaurs and no man will be left on earth....WRONG

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Yeah, Pat is a freemason...

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Not everyone agrees:


ELEnin: The Coming 3 Days of Darkness

Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:17
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Before one dismisses this video out of hand, keep in mind the following facts about what we know about Elenin from Leonid at his Space Obs website himself.:

The diameter of the 'Coma' of Comet Elenin is currently estimated to exceed 200,000 km, or nearly 125,000 miles. The diameter of Jupiter is 142,984 kilometers, or 89,000 miles, 11 times the diameter of Earth. The diameter of the 'Coma' of Comet Elenin would be approx. 16X the size of Earth's 17,756 km, 7,925 mile diameter.

www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/planets/jupiter.htm

spaceobs.org/en/2011/08/04/diameter-of-coma-of-comet-elenin-exceeded-200000-km/

The 'Tail' of Comet Elenin is currently estimated to exceed 900,000 km, or nearly 560,00 miles.

spaceobs.org/en/2011/03/12/dlinna-xvosta-komety-elenina-uzhe-prevysila-900-000-km/

Comet Elenin will come directly between the Sun and the Earth between September 26th to 28th, when it's 'Tail' will be directly facing planet Earth.

ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C%2F2010%20X1;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb

Comet Elenin appears to be made of Hydrogen Cyanide , according to Leonin Elenin, which accounts for the Comet's 'bitter almond' 'smell'. Hydrogen Cyanide is extremely toxic and lethal to human life.

spaceobs.org/en/2011/08/07/comet-elenina-smells-like-bitter-almonds/



Video above and info below uploaded by aydinzap on Aug 10, 2011

It'll happen end of September. Elenin's tail will be about +300,000 miles to that time.