Ron Paul: Submit to Allah

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[wateredseeds]

First off...the title of the video is absurd and a lie. Dr. Paul is a baptist christian. He grew up lutheran and now goes to a baptist church. He believes in the CONSTITUTION, & the HOLY BIBLE. He is the only candidate that takes the constitutional positions on the issues.

You need to watch Wesley Clark interviews and realize what exactly was happening leading up to and AFTER 9/11. Bush made a decision to go to war with Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and several other countries. He of course wasn't able to live up to that decision...but this war propaganda exists because we HELD A COU IN IRAN IN 1953. They hate us for getting rid of their democratically elected leader. You need to study blowback.

Simply saying that Iran is a danger without UNDERSTANDING why they are a danger is irresponsible. Iran is evil. But the cause of their hate for america is not that we are free. It is that we have meddled in their affairs for years. They have a large jewish population in Tehran that DON'T want to move to Israel. They like it there. Wonder why.

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Let's be clear here....Saudi Arabia(whom Paul speaks out against) is a MUCH bigger imminent danger to Israel than Iran. Psalm 83 will happen FIRST! That means we should be trying to understand what these issues are. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria etc. ....they all attack Israel BEFORE Iran ever will.

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I also think it is important to note that Ron Paul is right about sanctions. Iran doesn't give a damn about sanctions. Instituting sanctions against them will only piss them off. Gudhaffi had nuclear weapons. He gave them up...now he is dead. Do we really think they would stop pursuing nuclear material if we sanction them? It's stupid to think it will have an effect on them. They sell a lot of oil. Sanctions will have almost no effect on them.

[maeday5]

The day I believe Wesley Clark will be when he gives an accounting for his involvement in the Waco disaster.
I do not believe all our troubles in the middle east are over "blow-back", either. That's a rather naive position. Gee, if blow-back were so common you'd think we'd still be at war with Japan over Pearl Harbor. Blowback is a bogus theory. The problem with Iran is their radical government.....their belief that all who are not Muslims are infidels.
Read up on Replacement theology, reconstructionism before voting for RP. He appears to me as a wolf in sheep's clothing.Be very wary of voting for him.

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Blowback is the result of MEDDLING in others affairs. And actually, while we were completely justified in going to war with Japan....it was partially the result of blowback. We stopped oil from being delivered to Japan. The Japanese were in negotiations over that very issue...and decided they couldn't wait to get the oil...so they attacked us. Of course we had every right to not deliver oil...or allow oil delivery through our territorial waters. Were we justified to kill Bin Laden? Yes. But that doesn't change the FACT that many of these people hate us for our meddling...NOT because we are free and prosperous. We supported Bin Laden and Hussein....until they stepped out of line with our wishes. Same thing with Iran. We held a cou in Iran. That's why they hate us. Study the history...IT'S FACT.

[maeday5]

Of please...FACT? Fact is all men and nations sin. The USA isn't THE bad boy of all the nations. Political intrigue and mayhem have been going on since the time of Genesis. Yes we've meddled in other countries affairs but you do understand some of the folks who lived in those countries were thankful we did meddle. I know a women (a dentist) who left Iran when the Ayatollah took over, she wishes the USA would intervene more in Iran. Not all Iranians hate the USA, many are pro American.

And the radical Muslims do despise us for our freedom and our prosperity because they see both as rebellion against Allah. Blow back is bogus, used as a cause to disguise the true intent which is, Muslim dominion.

And what of Wesley Clark and his involvement in Waco? He certainly had no respect for the Constitution when he allowed tanks to be used against US citizens, including dozens of children. He ought to be looking over his shoulder I reckin' if he subscribes to blow-back.

As for the Saudis, yup they are a threat to Israel to some degree but Iran is a threat to Saudi Arabia and vice versa. Don't ever forget Iran wants control of Mecca The Saudis truly are sons of Abraham, Bedouin and tribal. The Iranians(PERSIANS),were /are neither and did subject Judah to captivity. Iran is a threat to Israel and all the mid east Sunni Muslim countries. The Iranians desire instability and chaos in the middle east so that they may conquer it politically.

I exhort you to wake up !! RP is way off in his ideology...he is not going to deliver what you think he will.

[wateredseeds]

mae,

Well...it's probably not gonna matter now. I hope Obama loses. I'm warming up to santorum...though i still don't trust him.

Bless you.

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Jan 4, 2012 2:39:26 GMT -5 @wateredseeds said:

mae,

Well...it's probably not gonna matter now. I hope Obama loses. I'm warming up to santorum...though i still don't trust him.

Bless you.

Will it make any difference should Obama lose? I have my doubts in all the men running for the office of president.
I keep praying for the Lord to have mercy on His children. I love the land of my birth but unless and until hearts/souls are turned to Jesus, I don't see much blessing in store for this country. Still, I know the Lord can change the hearts of kings and be merciful even when we don't deserve it. Blessings back at you.

[shann0]

Santorum = Jesuit member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta...

[shann0]

Ron Paul too has his connections to the RCC... Here's a couple of articles where he praises the pope.



www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=8021

Ron Paul Supports the Pope and the Pope supports the NWO! Clinton, Pope join Bilderbergers May 26, 1999! I’m sure Alex knew about this LOL!

By yomoney | March 5, 2008

www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul242.html

Before the US House of Representatives, April 6, 2005.

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to join my colleagues in paying tribute to the life and legacy of Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul II was one of the great religious leaders of modern times, and an eloquent champion of human freedom and dignity. Unlike all-too-many misguided religious leaders, the Pope understood that liberty, both personal and economic, is a necessary condition for the flourishing of human virtue.

The Pope’s commitment to human dignity, grounded in the teachings of Christ, led him to become one of the most eloquent spokesmen for the consistent ethic of life, exemplified by his struggles against abortion, war, euthanasia, and the death penalty.

Unfortunately, few in American politics today adhere to the consistent ethic of life, thus we see some who cheered the Pope’s stand against the war and the death penalty while downplaying or even openly defying his teachings against abortion and euthanasia.

Others who cheered the Pope’s opposition to abortion and euthanasia were puzzled or hostile to his opposition to war. Many of these “pro-life supporters of war” tried to avoid facing the inherent contradictions in their position by distorting the Just War doctrine, which the Pope properly interpreted as denying sanction to the Iraq war. One prominent conservative commentator even suggested that the pope was the “enemy” of the United States.

In conclusion, I am pleased to pay tribute to Pope John Paul II. I would encourage those who wish to honor his memory to reflect on his teachings regarding war and the sanctity of life, and consider the inconsistencies in claiming to be pro-life but supporting the senseless killing of innocent people that inevitably accompanies militarism, or in claiming to be pro-peace and pro-compassion but supporting the legal killing of the unborn.

April 8, 2005

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.

www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul244.html

Theology, Not Politics

Members of Congress from both political parties outdid themselves last week in heaping praise upon Pope John Paul II in the wake of his passing. Many spoke at length on the floor of the House of Representatives, and some even flew to Rome for his funeral.

I’m happy to witness so many politicians honoring a great man of God and peace. The problem, however, is that so few of them honored him during his lifetime by their actions as legislators. In fact, most members of Congress support policies that are totally at odds with Catholic teachings.

Just two years ago conservatives were busy scolding the Pope for his refusal to back our invasion of Iraq. One conservative media favorite even made the sickening suggestion that the Pope was the enemy of the United States because he would not support our aggression in the Middle East. The Pontiff would not ignore the inherent contradiction in being pro-life and pro-war, nor distort just war doctrine to endorse attacking a nation that clearly posed no threat to America – and conservatives resented it. September 11th did not change everything, and the Pope understood that killing is still killing. The hypocritical pro-war conservatives lauding him today have very short memories.

Liberals also routinely denounced the Pope for maintaining that Catholicism, like all religions, has rules that cannot simply be discarded to satisfy the cultural trends of the time. The political left has been highly critical of the Pope’s positions on abortion, euthanasia, gay marriage, feminism, and contraception. Many liberals frankly view Catholicism as an impediment to the fully secular society they hope to create.

Both conservatives and liberals cannot understand that the Pope’s pronouncements were theological, not political. He was one of the few humans on earth who could not be bullied or threatened by any government. He was a man of God, not a man of the state. He was not a policy maker, but rather a steward of long-established Catholic doctrine. His mission was to save souls, not serve the political agendas of any nation, party, or politician.

To the secularists, this was John Paul II’s unforgivable sin – he placed service to God above service to the state. Most politicians view the state, not God, as the supreme ruler on earth. They simply cannot abide a theology that does not comport with their vision of unlimited state power. This is precisely why both conservatives and liberals savaged John Paul II when his theological pronouncements did not fit their goals. But perhaps their goals simply were not godly.

Unlike most political leaders, the Pope understood that both personal and economic liberties are necessary for human virtue to flourish. Virtue, after all, involves choices. Politics and government operate to deny people the freedom to make their own choices.

The Pope’s commitment to human dignity, grounded in the teachings of Christ, led him to become an eloquent and consistent advocate for an ethic of life, exemplified by his struggles against abortion, war, euthanasia, and the death penalty. Yet what institutions around the world sanction abortion, war, euthanasia, and the death penalty? Governments.

Historically, religion always represented a threat to government because it competes for the loyalties of the people. In modern America, however, most religious institutions abandoned their independence long ago, and now serve as cheerleaders for state policies like social services, faith-based welfare, and military aggression in the name of democracy. Few American churches challenge state actions at all, provided their tax-exempt status is maintained. This is why Washington politicians ostensibly celebrate religion – it no longer threatens their supremacy. Government has co-opted religion and family as the primary organizing principle of our society. The federal government is boss, and everybody knows it. But no politician will ever produce even a tiny fraction of the legacy left by Pope John Paul II.

April 12, 2005

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.




Pope John Paul II Calls for a new world order!

VATICAN CITY (AP) –Pope John Paul II rang in the New Year on Thursday with a renewed call for peace in the Middle East and Africa and the creation of a new world order based on respect for the dignity of man and equality among nations.

John Paul presided over a morning Mass inside St. Peter’s Basilica to mark the World Day of Peace, which the Roman Catholic Church celebrates every January 1. He appeared in good form, delivering his entire homily in a strong and clear voice despite a relatively tiring holiday schedule.

This year, John Paul directed his thoughts to continuing conflicts around the globe. But he stressed that to bring about peace, there needs to be a new respect for international law and the creation of a “new international order” based on the goals of the United Nations.

He called for “an order that is able to give adequate solutions to today’s problems based on the dignity of the human being, on an integral development of society, on solidarity among nations rich and poor, on the sharing of resources and the extraordinary results of scientific and technical progress.”

The pope lamented continuing violence between Israel and the Palestinians, and also offered his prayers for his ambassador to Burundi, Archbishop Michael Courtney, who was gunned down by assailants this week as he returned from a funeral.

John Paul said Courtney was killed “while he carried out his mission in favor of dialogue and reconciliation” in the central African country, which has been wracked by violence for a decade.

“Let us pray for him, hoping that his example and sacrifice will bring about the fruits of peace in Burundi and the world,” he said.

Earlier this month, John Paul issued a formal document marking the World Day of Peace in which he called for a reform of the United Nations and international law to deal with the evolving threat of terrorism.

He said a new respect for international law was the only way to achieve peace and guarantee against the arbitrary use of force. He did not mention the United States by name, but his message appeared aimed at the U.S. anti-terrorism campaign—and in particular at Washington’s pre-emptive war in Iraq, which was launched without the specific authorization of the United Nations.

John Paul was a vocal critic of the Iraq war, dispatching envoys to Washington and Baghdad to try to prevent hostilities from breaking out and exhorting world leaders that war was not inevitable and was “always a defeat for humanity.”

“Because peace is possible … it is necessary,” he said during his homily Thursday.

The New Year’s Mass was the last major celebration of the Christmas season for John Paul, who is 83 and suffers from Parkinson’s disease, which makes it difficult for him to speak, as well as knee and hip ailments that make it almost impossible for him to walk or stand.

He cut back some of his holiday activities and scrapped two traditional papal events—the ordination of bishops January 6 and baptisms on January 11.

But throughout the Christmas season, he has appeared far stronger than during the series of celebrations in October marking his 25th anniversary as pope. Then, he was unable to deliver many of his homilies and had to have others to read them on his behalf.

Clinton, pope join Bilderbergers
Secret meeting of global movers, shakers in Portugal
Posted: May 26, 1999
1:00 am Eastern© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

What do Steven Spielberg, Pope John Paul II, Ted Turner, Boris Yeltsin, Bill Clinton and House Speaker Dennis Hastert have in common? They are among those on a “partial guest list” of expected attendees to the 1999 Bilderberg meeting in Portugal scheduled for next week.

The secret meeting in Sintra, Portugal, takes place June 3-6. According to sources which have penetrated the high-security meetings in the past, the Bilderberg meetings emphasize a globalist agenda and promote the idea that the notion of national sovereignty is antiquated and regressive.

In 1998, British free-lance journalist Campbell Thomas who attempted to cover the conference in Turnberry, Scotland, for the Daily Mail. Thomas began by seeking the opinions of neighbors to the secret meeting being held nearby. One of those was a young woman who told him he was in the hotel’s staff quarters and should leave immediately, which he did.

A short while later, two local police officers arrested Thomas, who reportedly remained in custody for eight hours.

According to the Portugal News, an English-language weekly paper attempting to cover the 1999 meeting, not all journalists are treated quite so harshly.

“Margarida Marante, an extremely successful television journalist with the Portuguese television channel SIC, is alleged to have been invited to attend this year’s Bilderberg group meeting in Sintra,” the paper reports. “The television presenter declined to make any comments to the News through her press secretary. The News was, after three days of making phone calls and waiting, given the following response: ‘Dr. Margarida Marante prefers not to respond (to the News’ allegations that she will be attending the Bilderberg meeting), and with all due respect to our publication, she is very busy.”

The paper also reports that Prime Minister Ant?nio Guterres, listed his attendance at the 1994 Bilderberg conference on his personal CV at the government Internet site. Guterres was made prime minister the following year, and his name has not appeared on the “guest lists” since that date, according to the News.

Here is the partial guest list obtained by WorldNetDaily:

Ackerman, Duane - CEO Bell South
Ahern, Bertie - Prime Minister of Ireland
Alberthal, Les - CEO of Electronic Data Systems (EDS)
Albright, Madeleine - U.S. Secretary of State
Al Saud, Waleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz - Saudi Prince
Amichai, Yehuda - Israeli poet
Annan, Kofi - U.N. Secretary General
Arafat, Yasser - Chairman Palestinian Authority
Armstrong, Michael - CEO of AT&T Corrporation
Arison, Ted - Israeli Financier
Assad, Hafez - President of Syria
Aznar, Jose Maria - President of Spain
Belluzzo, Richard - CEO - Silicon Graphics-SGI
Berkshire Hathaway - Warren Buffet
Bolkiah, Hassanal - The Sultan of Brunei
Byers, Brook - Partner KPCB
Beyster, J. R. - Founder and CEO of SAIC
Bialkin, Ken - Skadden Arps
bin-Mohamad, Mahathir - PM of Malaysia
Blair, Tony - Prime Minister of UK
Bondevik, Kjell Magne - Prime Minister of Norway
Bonsignore, Michael - CEO Honeywell
Braverman, Avishai - President of Ben-Gurion University
Bronfman, Charles - Canadian businessman
Buffet, Warren, CEO Berkshire Hathaway
Cardoso, Fernando Henrique - President of Brazil
Case, Daniel - Chairman & CEO of H& Q
Case, Stephen - CEO of America On-Line-AOL
Caufield, Frank - AOL Board & Partner KPCB
Cayne, James - CEO of Bear Stearn
Chalsty, John - CEO of DLJ
Chambers, John - CEO of Cisco Systems
Chirac, Jacques - President of Franc
Chretien, Jean - Prime Minister of Canada
Clinton, Bill - President of the United States
Cohen, Abby - Market Strategist, Goldman Sachs
Corzine, Jon - CEO of Goldman Sachs
Coulter, David - Former CEO of Bank of America
Cresson Edith - EC Commissioner
Daschle, Thomas - Senator, Minority Leader, U.S. Senate
DeGier, Hans - CEO of Warburg Dillon Read
Dehaene, Jean-Luc - Prime Minister of Belgium
Dell, Michael - Dell Computers
Denham, Bob - Salomon Smith Barney
Dinstein, Yoram - President of Tel Aviv University-TAU
Disney, Roy - Vice Chairman & Nephew - Walt Disney
Ebtekar, Massoomeh - Vice President of Iran
Eisenberg, Erwin - Heir to Eisenberg Group
Ellison, Larry - CEO of Oracle
Engibous, Tom - Texas Instruments-TI
Esrey, Bill - CEO of Sprint
Estrada, Joseph - President of the Philippines
Fahd, King - Leader of Saudi Arabia
Fan, Rita - Chairwoman Provincial Legislature China
Fisher, Max - Chairman, Republican National Jewish Coalition-NJC
Fisher, Richard - CEO of Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
Fortune 1000 - Group Focus Letter
Frankel, Jacob - Bank of Israel
Friedlander, Yehuda - Rector of Bar Ilan University
Fuld, Fichard - CEO of Lehman Brothers (acquired Blount Intl)
Gates, Bill - CEO of Microsoft
Gerstner, Lou - CEO of IBM
Glavin, Christopher - Motorola - Strategy Focus
Goh Chok Tong - Prime Minister of Singapore
Goldberg, Ed - Merrill Lynch - Strategy Focus
Grafton, Bob - CEO of Arthur Andersen Worldwide
Grasso, Richard - CEO, New York Stock Exchange-NYSE
Greer, Phil - Weiss Peck & Greer
Grove, Andy - Former CEO of Intel
Gujral, I.K. - Former Prime Minister of India
Habibie, B. J. - Indonesia’s Prime Minister
Hammerman, Stephen - Vice Chairman Merrill Lynch
Harari, Chaim - President of Weizmann Institute
Hariri, Rafik - Prime Minister of Lebanon
Hashimoto, Ryutaro - Former Prime Minister of Japan
Hastert, Dennis - GOP - Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives
Hayuth, Yehuda - President of Haifa University
Honeycutt, Van - CEO Computer Sciences Corporation-CSC
Horovitz, Avraham - GM - UMI Israel Chief Scientist
Howard, John - Prime Minister of Australia
Hussein, King - of Jordan and The Crown Prince Hassan (HK: Deceased)
Ichan, Carl - Wall Street Financier
Jackson, Judge Thomas Penfield - US District Court - Washington D. C.
Jiang Zemin - President of China
Jobs, Steven - Apple Computers
Jospin, Lionel - Prime Minister of France
Kangas, Edward - CEO Deloitte, Touche, Tohmatsu - International-DTTI
Kaveh, Moshe - President of Bar Ilan University
Khatami, Mohammed - President of Iran
Kim, Dea.jung - President of South Korea
Kim Young-sam - Former President of South Korea
Kissinger, Kissinger - former U.S. Secretary of State
Kok, Wim - Prime Minister of the Netherlands
Koller, Arnold - President of Switzerland
Komansky, David - CEO of Merrill Lynch
Kohl, Helmut - Former Chancellor of Germany
Lane, Neal - Former Director of the NSF
Laskawy, Phil - CEO of Ernst & Young-EY
Lavie, Arie - Former Chief Scientist - Israel
Lee Kuan-Yew - President of Singapore
Lee Teng-hui - President of Taiwan
Leon, Moshe - Director General, PM’s Office Israel
Lerner, Alex - Israeli Scientist
Levin, Gerald - CEO Time Warner, Inc.
Li Peng - Prime Minister of China
Livingston, Robert - GOP Nominee as - U.S. Speaker of the House
Lott, Senator Trent - GOP Senate Majority Leader - US Senate
Magidor, Menachem - President of Hebrew University
Mahathir Mohamad - Malaysian Prime Minister
Mandella, Nelson - President of South Africa
Marron, Donald - CEO of Paine Webber Group - Enterprise Strategy
McGinn Richard - CEO of Lucent- Enterprise Strategy
McNealy, Scott - CEO of Sun Microsystems
Middelhoff, Thomas - CEO Bertelsmann & AOL Director
Mitchell, George - Former GOP Senate Majority Leader
Moore, Nicholas - Chairman of PriceWaterhouse Coopers-PWC L.L.P.
Mubarak, Hosni - President of Egypt
Murdoch, Rupert - Austrialian Media Owner
Narayanan, K.R. - Former President of India
Ne’eman, Yaacov - Former Israeli Finance Minister
Ne’eman, Yuval- Israeli Physicist
Obuchi, Keizo - Prime Minister of Japan
Oz, Amos - Israeli writer
Palmer, Robert - CEO of Digital Equipment Corporation-DEC
Paulson, Henry - Co-Chairman Goldman Sachs
Persson, Goran - Prime Minister of Sweden
Pfeiffer, Eckhard - CEO of Compaq
Phelan, John - Former CEO NYSE & Director of ML and the BCG
Phypers, Dean - Former CFO of IBM
Platt, Lewis - CEO Hewlitt Packard-HP
Pope John Paul II - Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church-RCC
Pottruck, David - Charles A. Schwab & Company
Primakov, Yevgeny - Russian Prime Minister
Prodi, Romano - Former Prime Minister of Italy
Purcell, Philip - CEO of Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
Ramos, Fidel - Former President of Philippines
Raymond, Lee - CEO Exxon
Redstone, Sumner - CEO of Viacom - HBO
Reichman, Uriel - President of the Inter Disciplinary Center- IDC Israel
Reichmann, Paul - Canadian Businessman
Rodin, Judith - President of the University of Pennsylvania
Roosa, Robert - Former Chairman Brown Brothers Harriman (of blessed
emory)
Samuelson, Paul - MIT Economics Nobel Laureate
Santer, Jacques - President of the European Commission-EC
Schiro, James - CEO PriceWaterhouse Coopers-PWC
Schroeder, Gerhard - German Chancellor
Schwab, Charles - Charles A. Schwab & Company
Sharman, Colin - Chairman KPMG
Shipley, Walter - CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank
Spielberg, Steven - Hollywood Film Producer
Slahor, Paul - Founding Investor in IPC
Slavin, Shmuel - Director General of Israel’s Finance Ministry
Smith, Jack - CEO of General Motors-GM
Soros, George - President of the Soros Fund
Spector, Norman - Publisher Jerusalem Post
Tadmor, Zeev - President of Technion
Trotman, Alexander - CEO of Ford Motor Company
Tung Chee-hwa - Hong Kong Chief Executive
Turner, Ted - CEO Turner Broadcasting Systems-TBS - CNN
Vajpayee, Atal Behari - Prime Minister of India
Wang Changyi - China’s Ambassador to Israel
Wang, Charles - CEO of Computer Associates International-CAI
Weill, Sandy - CEO Travelers-Citigroup
Weinbach, Arthur - CEO of Automatic Data Procesing-ADP
Weinbach, Lawrence - CEO of Unisys
Yair, Yoram - Former Israel Defense Forces
Yehoshua, A.B. - Israeli writer
Yeltsin, Boris - President of Russia
Zedillo, Ernesto - President of Mexico
Zeroual, Liamine - President of Algeria

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we're totally screwed aren't we?

[shann0]

Yeah, pretty much! Come quickly Lord Jesus!