5 Reasons It’s Time to Start Exercising “Moore” Discernment"
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Post by Shoshanna on Jan 10, 2015 20:06:11 GMT -5
Five Reasons It’s Time to Start Exercising “Moore” Discernment
Posted by Michelle Lesley in Celebrity Pastors, Christian women, Discernment, False Teachers, Women, Word of Faith Movement
TagsBelieving God, Beloved Disciple, Beth Moore, CARM, Chris Rosebrough, Christian Women, Christine Caine, Colour Conference, Direct Revelation, Discernment, Do Not
Be Surprised, False teachers, Hillsong, Joyce Meyer, Lisa Bevere, Sola Sisters, Women's Bible Study
I originally published this article on March 4, 2014. I am re-running it with updated information, and will continue to update it as more information becomes available.
I’ve put this off as long as I can. I have stood aside and extended grace and benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years in the face of evidence that said I shouldn’t.
But because I love my sisters in the body of Christ, I cannot keep silent about this any longer.
Ladies, pastors, and anyone in charge of selecting Bible study material for small groups:
Beth Moore is slipping,
and it’s time to take a good hard look at the slope she’s headed down.
This is not a request for you to believe me or agree with my personal opinion. I’m asking you to take a discerning look at the evidence and compare with Scripture what she is currently doing and teaching. If you do, I think it will be obvious to you that, whatever she may have taught in the past, something is seriously wrong now.
For your consideration:
1. Beth Moore preaches to men.
This is a video I chose at random (from the dozens of videos on YouTube featuring Beth Moore) which clearly shows men in the audience within the first 45 seconds. Beth Moore has, for quite a while, been teaching and preaching to men as well as women as you can see in this video. First Timothy 2:12 clearly forbids this.
2. Beth Moore is willingly being influenced by false teachers.
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Beth Moore tweeted this in December 2013. “Lakewood” is prosperity preacher Joel Osteen’s church. Christine Caine also preaches to men and is part of the leadership team of Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) church, Hillsong.
2 Corinthians 11:3-4, 1 Corinthians 15:33, Proverbs 13:20
3. Beth Moore is being embraced by and promoted by false teachers.
3. Beth Moore has been a featured speaker at Hillsong’s Colour Conference for several years and is scheduled to speak again at the 2014 conference this month. She was also a featured speaker at the “Be the Change” conference with Christine Caine and Lisa Bevere in 2012.
Galatians 1:6-9, 2 Corinthians 6:14-16
UPDATE (8-14-14)
News broke yesterday on false teacher Joyce Meyer’s Facebook page that Beth Moore will soon begin appearing on Meyer’s program “Enjoying Everyday Life.”
“We’re excited to have Beth Moore in the studio with us today taping upcoming shows of Enjoying Everyday Life. We’ll keep you posted as soon as they are available.”
www.facebook.com/joycemeyerministries/photos/a.144786947383.112397.25254987383/10152695622382384/?type=1&theater
We're excited to have Beth Moore in the studio with us today taping upcoming shows of Enjoying Everyday Life. We'll keep you posted as soon as they are available.
4. Beth Moore claims to receive direct, personal, extra-biblical revelation from God.
Beloved, I am convinced one of our severest needs is pure rest. Not only sleep, but refreshment and recreation. Recently God spoke to me about capturing what He and I are calling “Sabbath moments.” Like many of yours, my schedule right now is particularly tough, and I see no time in 400000000000000263331_s4the near future for a number of days off. God spoke to my heart one Saturday morning while I was preparing for Sunday school: “My child, in between more intense rests, I want to teach you to take Sabbath moments.” I wasn’t certain what He meant. Just that morning God confirmed His desire for me to drive all the way to the other side of Houston to the medical center to visit a patient with brain cancer. I was very thankful for the privilege of visiting this patient, but I knew in advance it would be tough emotionally and far from restful.
Excerpted from Beth Moore’s “The Beloved Disciple”
What God began to say to me about five years ago, and I’m telling you it sent me on such a trek with Him, that my head is still whirling over it.th
He began to say to me, ”I’m gonna tell you something right now, Beth; and boy, you write this one down. And you say it as often as I give you utterance to say it: ‘My Bride is paralyzed by unbelief. My Bride is paralyzed by unbelief.’” And He said, “Startin’ with you.”
Excerpted from Beth Moore’s “Believing God” video
Pick up any Beth Moore book or watch any video of her teaching, and count how many times she says, “I think…” or “I believe…” or bases her teaching on a personal experience or story rather than teaching what God’s word clearly says.
2 Timothy 3:16-17, Romans 10:17, Hebrews 1:1-2
5. Beth Moore refuses correction.
In this video, Beth Moore pre-emptively strikes out at anyone who sees and hears what she will soon be teaching or doing and finds it to be in conflict with Scripture. Do you notice she does not quote or read a single passage of Scripture to back up what she is saying? Notice how many times she says “I believe…” This is all based on her own subjective ideations. You can find the transcript here if you would like to read it.
UPDATE (1-10-15)
Instead of taking a step back and honestly evaluating where she is wrong on the biblical issues she has been called to account for, Beth Moore wrote a blog post yesterday striking out against people calling her a heretic or a false teacher for “disagreement” or “getting something wrong.” My comment to her (which I’m amazed they actually published):
Beth-
You’re absolutely right, a simple difference of opinion between two people doesn’t make someone a false teacher. And making a mistake or getting something wrong doesn’t make someone a false teacher either, if, when she is shown from Scripture that she is wrong, she repents and stops doing/teaching whatever she was wrong about.
That’s not what’s going on here.
You have been shown numerous times by numerous people that you mishandle and disobey God’s word (you preach to men in direct violation of 1 Timothy 2:12ff, you have unequally yoked yourself with false teachers in the prosperity gospel movement such as Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, and others, also in violation of Scripture, you twist and misapply God’s word, etc.) and yet you persist in doing so and continue to justify yourself and cast aspersions on brothers and sisters in Christ who call you to repent and conform to God’s word. THAT is what makes you a false teacher, not a simple mistake or disagreement.
You are not being called a false teacher because of man’s opinion, but because you rebel against God’s word and lead others to do the same. Please repent, obey God’s word, and teach sound doctrine. That is what the women who listen to you need.
Proverbs 18:2, Ecclesiastes 7:5, Galatians 2:11-14
These are merely five brief examples of Beth Moore behaving and speaking in ways that mishandle God’s word or otherwise conflict with the Bible. There are numerous others to be found by a simple web search.
A number of people have been raising biblical concerns about Beth Moore over the past few years. If you’d like to read more, I suggest:
(All can be accessed from the link below.)
Beth Moore Prophesies a Coming ‘Outpouring,’ Warns of ‘Scoffers’ by Do Not Be Surprised
Why Beth Moore and Not Me? The Danger of Claiming to Receive Direct Revelation by Do Not Be Surprised
Beth Moore by CARM.org
Beth Moore’s Dangerous Bible Twisting by Chris Rosebrough
“Breaking Free” from Beth Moore and Her “Try Hard” Theology by Lisa Nunley at Sola Sisters
Has Beth Moore Become a False Teacher? with Brannon Howse and Justin Peters
link
Posted by Michelle Lesley in Celebrity Pastors, Christian women, Discernment, False Teachers, Women, Word of Faith Movement
TagsBelieving God, Beloved Disciple, Beth Moore, CARM, Chris Rosebrough, Christian Women, Christine Caine, Colour Conference, Direct Revelation, Discernment, Do Not
Be Surprised, False teachers, Hillsong, Joyce Meyer, Lisa Bevere, Sola Sisters, Women's Bible Study
I originally published this article on March 4, 2014. I am re-running it with updated information, and will continue to update it as more information becomes available.
I’ve put this off as long as I can. I have stood aside and extended grace and benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years in the face of evidence that said I shouldn’t.
But because I love my sisters in the body of Christ, I cannot keep silent about this any longer.
Ladies, pastors, and anyone in charge of selecting Bible study material for small groups:
Beth Moore is slipping,
and it’s time to take a good hard look at the slope she’s headed down.
This is not a request for you to believe me or agree with my personal opinion. I’m asking you to take a discerning look at the evidence and compare with Scripture what she is currently doing and teaching. If you do, I think it will be obvious to you that, whatever she may have taught in the past, something is seriously wrong now.
For your consideration:
1. Beth Moore preaches to men.
This is a video I chose at random (from the dozens of videos on YouTube featuring Beth Moore) which clearly shows men in the audience within the first 45 seconds. Beth Moore has, for quite a while, been teaching and preaching to men as well as women as you can see in this video. First Timothy 2:12 clearly forbids this.
2. Beth Moore is willingly being influenced by false teachers.
1604918_699878473386423_735390230_n
Beth Moore tweeted this in December 2013. “Lakewood” is prosperity preacher Joel Osteen’s church. Christine Caine also preaches to men and is part of the leadership team of Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) church, Hillsong.
2 Corinthians 11:3-4, 1 Corinthians 15:33, Proverbs 13:20
3. Beth Moore is being embraced by and promoted by false teachers.
3. Beth Moore has been a featured speaker at Hillsong’s Colour Conference for several years and is scheduled to speak again at the 2014 conference this month. She was also a featured speaker at the “Be the Change” conference with Christine Caine and Lisa Bevere in 2012.
Galatians 1:6-9, 2 Corinthians 6:14-16
UPDATE (8-14-14)
News broke yesterday on false teacher Joyce Meyer’s Facebook page that Beth Moore will soon begin appearing on Meyer’s program “Enjoying Everyday Life.”
“We’re excited to have Beth Moore in the studio with us today taping upcoming shows of Enjoying Everyday Life. We’ll keep you posted as soon as they are available.”
www.facebook.com/joycemeyerministries/photos/a.144786947383.112397.25254987383/10152695622382384/?type=1&theater
We're excited to have Beth Moore in the studio with us today taping upcoming shows of Enjoying Everyday Life. We'll keep you posted as soon as they are available.
4. Beth Moore claims to receive direct, personal, extra-biblical revelation from God.
Beloved, I am convinced one of our severest needs is pure rest. Not only sleep, but refreshment and recreation. Recently God spoke to me about capturing what He and I are calling “Sabbath moments.” Like many of yours, my schedule right now is particularly tough, and I see no time in 400000000000000263331_s4the near future for a number of days off. God spoke to my heart one Saturday morning while I was preparing for Sunday school: “My child, in between more intense rests, I want to teach you to take Sabbath moments.” I wasn’t certain what He meant. Just that morning God confirmed His desire for me to drive all the way to the other side of Houston to the medical center to visit a patient with brain cancer. I was very thankful for the privilege of visiting this patient, but I knew in advance it would be tough emotionally and far from restful.
Excerpted from Beth Moore’s “The Beloved Disciple”
What God began to say to me about five years ago, and I’m telling you it sent me on such a trek with Him, that my head is still whirling over it.th
He began to say to me, ”I’m gonna tell you something right now, Beth; and boy, you write this one down. And you say it as often as I give you utterance to say it: ‘My Bride is paralyzed by unbelief. My Bride is paralyzed by unbelief.’” And He said, “Startin’ with you.”
Excerpted from Beth Moore’s “Believing God” video
Pick up any Beth Moore book or watch any video of her teaching, and count how many times she says, “I think…” or “I believe…” or bases her teaching on a personal experience or story rather than teaching what God’s word clearly says.
2 Timothy 3:16-17, Romans 10:17, Hebrews 1:1-2
5. Beth Moore refuses correction.
In this video, Beth Moore pre-emptively strikes out at anyone who sees and hears what she will soon be teaching or doing and finds it to be in conflict with Scripture. Do you notice she does not quote or read a single passage of Scripture to back up what she is saying? Notice how many times she says “I believe…” This is all based on her own subjective ideations. You can find the transcript here if you would like to read it.
UPDATE (1-10-15)
Instead of taking a step back and honestly evaluating where she is wrong on the biblical issues she has been called to account for, Beth Moore wrote a blog post yesterday striking out against people calling her a heretic or a false teacher for “disagreement” or “getting something wrong.” My comment to her (which I’m amazed they actually published):
Beth-
You’re absolutely right, a simple difference of opinion between two people doesn’t make someone a false teacher. And making a mistake or getting something wrong doesn’t make someone a false teacher either, if, when she is shown from Scripture that she is wrong, she repents and stops doing/teaching whatever she was wrong about.
That’s not what’s going on here.
You have been shown numerous times by numerous people that you mishandle and disobey God’s word (you preach to men in direct violation of 1 Timothy 2:12ff, you have unequally yoked yourself with false teachers in the prosperity gospel movement such as Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, and others, also in violation of Scripture, you twist and misapply God’s word, etc.) and yet you persist in doing so and continue to justify yourself and cast aspersions on brothers and sisters in Christ who call you to repent and conform to God’s word. THAT is what makes you a false teacher, not a simple mistake or disagreement.
You are not being called a false teacher because of man’s opinion, but because you rebel against God’s word and lead others to do the same. Please repent, obey God’s word, and teach sound doctrine. That is what the women who listen to you need.
Proverbs 18:2, Ecclesiastes 7:5, Galatians 2:11-14
These are merely five brief examples of Beth Moore behaving and speaking in ways that mishandle God’s word or otherwise conflict with the Bible. There are numerous others to be found by a simple web search.
A number of people have been raising biblical concerns about Beth Moore over the past few years. If you’d like to read more, I suggest:
(All can be accessed from the link below.)
Beth Moore Prophesies a Coming ‘Outpouring,’ Warns of ‘Scoffers’ by Do Not Be Surprised
Why Beth Moore and Not Me? The Danger of Claiming to Receive Direct Revelation by Do Not Be Surprised
Beth Moore by CARM.org
Beth Moore’s Dangerous Bible Twisting by Chris Rosebrough
“Breaking Free” from Beth Moore and Her “Try Hard” Theology by Lisa Nunley at Sola Sisters
Has Beth Moore Become a False Teacher? with Brannon Howse and Justin Peters
link