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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Jan 10, 2012 2:57:55 GMT -5
The following is a list of false prophets and heretical teachers who I'm seeing referred to frequently on some of the end times sites which offer little or no discernment. Although you're both welcome and encouraged to expose their false teaching in the Apostasy Forum, please do NOT post any of their "prophecies" and heresies elsewhere; doing so is grounds for a temporary banning.
The list will be updated as new names come to light; if you have any suggestions as to other relatively popular false teachers that should be added to the list, please PM me.
Marilyn Agee
Todd Bentley
Kenneth Copeland
Jesse DuPlantis
Franklin Graham
John Hagee
Benny Hinn
Rick Joiner
Monte Judah
Greg Laurie
Joyce Meyer
Joseph Prince
Ron Reese
Paula White
Stan Johnson
Creflo Dollar
Eddie Long
TD Jakes
Joel Osteen
Fred Price (dead; knows now how wrong he was)
Rick Warren
Perry Stone
Patricia King
Rod Parsley
Mark T. Barclay
Charles Capps
Bill Salus
Jerry Savelle,
Lester Sumrall
Nathan Leal
Chuck Pierce
Any of the "Kansas City Prophets" or "New Wave" or NAR crowd
Apart from Charles Stanley and Hal Lindsey (and why they stay on that demonic channel is beyond me), pretty much any of The Blasphemy Network (TBN) crowd.
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Post by wateredseeds on Mar 11, 2012 18:10:43 GMT -5
Hey POH,
Can i ask, what's wrong with Joseph Prince? I'm not disputing that there may be something wrong there. I'm just wondering what specifically is so bad. I have yet to run acrossed a perfect teacher. Even perry stone gets it wrong sometimes(lately more than ever).
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Post by wateredseeds on Mar 11, 2012 18:14:47 GMT -5
is he a prosperity guy? I guess i don't get it. I'm not seeing much at all about him. Though i haven't read any of his books other than his devotional....so it's not like i have a lot to go on.
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Post by wateredseeds on Mar 11, 2012 18:17:17 GMT -5
Okay, so i guess he's into WOF.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Mar 14, 2012 23:22:35 GMT -5
Joseph Prince is not only into WOF, he's noted for taking Scriptures out of context, and teaches salvation without the need for repentance or godly living.
His book is called "Destined to Reign", and the subtitle is as follows: "The secret to effortless success, wholeness and victorious living." If you and I can have "effortless success", then why did Jesus Christ make the following statement?
Luke 13:24 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to." In the New King James: "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able."
If we can have "effortless success", as Joseph Prince tells us in his top selling book found in respected Christian bookstores and around the world, why did Jesus tell us to "make every effort" to enter salvation, or even worse, to "strive"?
There are a lot of problems with this guy - his flashy appearance, his constant appeals for money....he might occasionally say something worthwhile, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. This guy is about as spiritual as Joel Osteen, concerned with what he can get from "god" in the here and now.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Mar 14, 2012 23:23:59 GMT -5
BTW, if you look in the apostasy section, you'll see Perry Stone has also gone over to the WOF camp; he's also teaching works, such as "the meal that heals."
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Post by shann0 on Mar 15, 2012 9:28:43 GMT -5
Indeed, Perry has issues.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Mar 15, 2012 12:30:02 GMT -5
I've wondered about him ever since I went to see him at a local WOF mega-church a few years ago, and some dude got up on the stage and said (using those "pastoral" tones), "And the Looord has told me there are one hundred - I say ONE HUNDRED - people here today who are to give one thousand - yes, ONE THOUSAND - dollars to Pastor X to help pay off the cost of the new parking lot. And if you don't have that kind of money in your checking account, that's OK....WE TAKE CREDIT CARDS!" As I recall, the parking lot cost them a few million -I said A FEW MILLION - dollars.  Imagine what useful things could have been done with that money instead of spending it on a fancy parking lot? Anyway, while that circus was going on Perry just stood there with his hands clasped in front of him and a huge smile on his face. I guess I lost respect for him since he affiliates himself with "churches" like that. |
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Post by wateredseeds on Mar 15, 2012 14:45:48 GMT -5
Yeah, i used to donate to his ministry. I stopped a couple of years ago. I really liked a lot of his prophetic insights....but i started finding that i disagreed with him on a lot of other stuff. I thought it would be better to support other types of ministries.
If anyone is wondering who is good to support through charitable giving, my suggestions are:
For disaster relief(both here in america and around the world): Convoy Of Hope. More than 90% of their contributions are spent directly on aid with less than 10% in administrative costs. They have become very effective and are 100% christian based.
Missions: Gospel for Asia(or a similar type of charity). Gospel for Asia is 100% volunteer based. They don't employ anyone...including their founder K.P. Yohannen. I sponsor a missionary through them.
Bible smuggling: Visions Beyond Borders. The founder, Pat Klein is a good friend of mine and has been smuggling bibles into east asia for over 20 years. He started out after reading about brother andrew. He's a great man of God that only cares for spreading the gospel.
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Post by ironwill on Mar 19, 2012 11:21:42 GMT -5
What about Rick Warren..
Joel Osteen ...
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Post by wateredseeds on Mar 19, 2012 11:26:50 GMT -5
^^^^Yeah, i think we ALL assumed that one. That guy....is bad.
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Post by ironwill on Mar 19, 2012 11:34:29 GMT -5
When I didn't see his name on the list I was like ... huh?  |
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Mar 19, 2012 12:45:53 GMT -5
Some are so obvious I didn't think of adding them right away. Actually, the way things are going with so many falling into apostasy it might be easier to list the few good teachers who remain!
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Post by shann0 on Mar 20, 2012 13:43:02 GMT -5
I agree POH...
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Post by ironwill on Apr 3, 2012 11:23:19 GMT -5
Some are so obvious I didn't think of adding them right away. Actually, the way things are going with so many falling into apostasy it might be easier to list the few good teachers who remain! Is that a challange ? because your right.. I know one of the top of my head, His name is JD from aloha although he doesn't have 000's going to his church he does reach a few thousand via internet |
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Apr 3, 2012 20:26:20 GMT -5
JD is terrific - someone posts his weekly prophecy update every Sunday night, almost as soon as he posts it!
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Jan 28, 2013 19:07:30 GMT -5
I'm adding Paul Begley to the list of false prophets. Aside from his immature presentations, what with all the shouting and screaming and making fun of people's names, he's claiming that he's been receiving prophecies from the Holy Spirit. Well, the office of prophet is closed; everything we need to know is in the Bible. The things that he's saying are getting more and more "out there," and I'm feeling more and more uneasy every time I see one of his videos. (That Catholic crucifix doesn't help!)
From now on, please don't post anything by him. Thanks.
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Post by baydoll on Feb 12, 2013 10:43:57 GMT -5
I'm adding Paul Begley to the list of false prophets. Aside from his immature presentations, what with all the shouting and screaming and making fun of people's names, he's claiming that he's been receiving prophecies from the Holy Spirit. Well, the office of prophet is closed; everything we need to know is in the Bible. The things that he's saying are getting more and more "out there," and I'm feeling more and more uneasy every time I see one of his videos. (That Catholic crucifix doesn't help!) From now on, please don't post anything by him. Thanks. Wut???!!!! Are you serious???!!!!!! ;D |
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Feb 13, 2013 1:28:48 GMT -5
I'm adding Paul Begley to the list of false prophets. Aside from his immature presentations, what with all the shouting and screaming and making fun of people's names, he's claiming that he's been receiving prophecies from the Holy Spirit. Well, the office of prophet is closed; everything we need to know is in the Bible. The things that he's saying are getting more and more "out there," and I'm feeling more and more uneasy every time I see one of his videos. (That Catholic crucifix doesn't help!) From now on, please don't post anything by him. Thanks. Wut???!!!! Are you serious???!!!!!! ;D  |
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Post by baydoll on Feb 13, 2013 7:31:59 GMT -5
Wut???!!!! Are you serious???!!!!!! ;D  |
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Post by baydoll on Feb 13, 2013 13:45:53 GMT -5
;D
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Sept 26, 2015 13:23:07 GMT -5
Please do not post any "news" stories by Walid Shoebat. If you'll notice, they're all sensationalist, and for the most part they cannot be verified. Sometimes news aggregate sites (like Red Flag News and Jews News) will pick them up, but there's always a disclaimer like "via Walid Shoebat" or a link back to his page (where he's always asking for donations) at the bottom.
Shoebat is either a closet Catholic, or still a Muslim; his wife is Catholic, and he has said that the Bible has errors but the Koran is perfect. His claims that he was a Palestinian terrorist cannot be verified; the closest he got to "terrorism" was picketing outside a bank. He's also trying to convince Christians (falsely) that the AC is a Muslim, in order to take their eyes off the real Antichrist...who probably comes out of or is affiliated with Rome.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him...
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Aug 23, 2020 23:13:42 GMT -5
In the last few months Amir Tsarfati has come out with a couple of heretical statements.
First he claimed that Michael the Archangel was Jesus, then he backtracked after a furor arose, saying (to the best of my recollection) something like someone on his staff misunderstood him. OK, we'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Recently he both tweeted and in a video prophecy update (Aug. 10) said that if someone doesn't love Israel they won't be raptured, and he doubted that they are saved. I discussed this with Charlie Garrett of The Superior Word, and he agrees that this is outright heresy - salvation is by faith alone, and with this statement Amir is making salvation conditional upon works. One's opinion of and feelings towards Israel is not a matter of soteriology; it's something that one will either gain or lose rewards at the Bema Seat Judgement over. (If you want to hear Pastor Charlie's take on the issue, he speaks about it at the beginning of today's - Aug. 23 - prophecy update.)
Granted, Amir is very good when it comes to talking about geopolitical issues, but he is NOT a Bible teacher. He has no training in Bible studies, and I've heard him say numerous things that, while not outright heretical, are at best questionable. Personally, I think he's taken upon himself a role that's beyond what God has called him to do, and he's not very good at it.
At least for now I'll continue to allow prophecy updates from Amir, but please do not post ANY Bible teaching (including Q&As) from him. On some prophecy updates he segues into teaching; I'd recommend you tune him out at that point.
Thank you.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Sept 22, 2020 0:19:13 GMT -5
More error from Amir. He really needs to stick to the ministry which he's been given, which is to report on the news as it relates to Bible prophecy, and stop trying to be a Bible teacher - he's simply not qualified.
He's wrong. Not all will be beheaded; there will be survivors who go into the Millennial Kingdom and will repopulate the Earth.
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Post by PrisonerOfHope on Mar 25, 2021 18:17:52 GMT -5
Franklin Graham and Greg Laurie have been added to the list for actively promoting the Covid vaccine. Not only is it a depopulation tool, but it contains aborted fetal tissue.  |
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Imagine what useful things could have been done with that money instead of spending it on a fancy parking lot?
