Turkish Prime Minister Ordered Shoot-Down of Russian Plane
Nov 26, 2015 16:02:47 GMT -5
Post by schwartzie on Nov 26, 2015 16:02:47 GMT -5
Turkish Prime Minister ORDERED Shoot-Down of Russian Plane; Russia has now attacked Turkish Convoy in Syria - 7 dead - Turkey says "Act of War!"
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BREAKING UPDATE 6:56 AM EST - 26 November 2015 -- Russian Air Force planes have just attacked and destroyed a convoy of Turkish vehicles . . . inside Syria . Turkey claims the trucks were a "relief convoy" calls the attack "an act of war." See bottom paragraph for update.
Hours after the incident which destroyed a Russian Su-24 bomber and left one pilot dead, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan went on the defensive, blaming an alleged incursion of Turkish airspace.
"We did not want this situation to happen, but everybody has to respect Turkey’s right to defend its borders," he told reporters, adding that the military’s actions were "fully in line with Turkey’s rules of engagement."
Many of the Turkish claims have already been called into question, raising doubts that the incident was a mere in-the-moment misunderstanding. Adding to that doubt are comments made by Davutoglu on Wednesday, in which he took direct responsibility for the crash.
"Despite all the warnings, we had to destroy the aircraft," he said during a meeting with his party, according to Canadian news site ThinkPol. "The Turkish Armed Forces carried out orders given by me personally."
Given the speed with which the incident occurred, it’s hard to know what to make of Davutoglu’s claim. According to the Turkish government’s own letter of explanation written to the United Nations Security Council, the military gave the Russian jet a series of warnings during a five-minute stretch, warning the pilots to move away from the border.
While the Russian Ministry of Defense has provided video evidence proving that the bomber never entered Turkish airspace, Ankara’s claim alleges that the incursion occurred for only 17 seconds.
It’s hard to imagine military personnel getting through to such a high-ranking government official, explaining the situation, and still having time to fire in a 17-second time frame.
Davutoglu’s statements seem to back up comments made by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov earlier on Wednesday, suggesting that the incident had been premeditated.
"We have serious doubts that it was unintentional, it looks like a planned provocation," he said. "We are not planning to wage a war against Turkey, our attitude towards the Turkish people has not changed. We have questions only to the Turkish leadership."
In response, Turkey’s Western allies in NATO have urged for calm.
"What we are calling for now is calm and de-escalation," NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said during a news conference in Brussels on Tuesday. "Diplomacy and de-escalation are important to resolve this question."
This was also echoed by US President Barack Obama, who told reporters "It’s very important for us right now to make sure both the Russians and the Turks are talking to each other to find out exactly what happened and take measures to discourage any kind of escalation."
While one of the pilots was killed by ground fire after ejecting from the aircraft, the other, Captain Konstantin Murahtin, was rescued. Murahtin also denied that his plane ever entered Turkish airspace, and also refuted claims that Turkey had given multiple warnings.
Russian President Vladimir Putin described the incident as a "stab in the back by accomplices of terrorists." This may not have seemed to make sense at the time he spoke those words, but intelligence has been released showing that Turkey has been accepting into its country ISIS tanker trucks filled with oil, stolen by ISIS, from countries like Iraq and Syria. That oil has then been sold on the Black Market, thus providing ISIS with over $1 Million per day in cash to fund its terrorist operations.
Earlier this month, when Russia began destroying ISIS oil tankers inside Syria, those destroyed oil tanker trucks instantly hit the pocketbook of the officials in Turkey who have been allowing the stolen oil to be sold in Turkey. It seems logical that those officials would receive something in return for accommodating ISIS, and so it is starting to appear to some people, that Turkey is in business with ISIS.
If so, then Turkey is now a state sponsor of terrorism, who just committed a willful act of war against Russia by shooting down a Russian military plane, and killing its pilot.
It is looking like World War 3 is no longer a far fetched notion. The only question is, will NATO side with a member state which has provided material support to ISIS terrorists? If so, then NATO itself will be aiding and abetting ISIS. Thus, we in America will be on the wrong side of any war; it would actually seem that in a very real sense, we will actually be "the bad guys."
UPDATE 6:56 AM Eastern Standard Time -- 26 November 2015 ----- Russian Air Forces have attacked a convoy of Turkish trucks inside Syria. Turkey reports that at least seven Turks are dead, ten or more injured. Turkey also claims the convoy was a "relief convoy" and says Russia has now committed "an act of war." Photos from the attack are now coming in. . . first below:
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BREAKING UPDATE 6:56 AM EST - 26 November 2015 -- Russian Air Force planes have just attacked and destroyed a convoy of Turkish vehicles . . . inside Syria . Turkey claims the trucks were a "relief convoy" calls the attack "an act of war." See bottom paragraph for update.
Hours after the incident which destroyed a Russian Su-24 bomber and left one pilot dead, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan went on the defensive, blaming an alleged incursion of Turkish airspace.
"We did not want this situation to happen, but everybody has to respect Turkey’s right to defend its borders," he told reporters, adding that the military’s actions were "fully in line with Turkey’s rules of engagement."
Many of the Turkish claims have already been called into question, raising doubts that the incident was a mere in-the-moment misunderstanding. Adding to that doubt are comments made by Davutoglu on Wednesday, in which he took direct responsibility for the crash.
"Despite all the warnings, we had to destroy the aircraft," he said during a meeting with his party, according to Canadian news site ThinkPol. "The Turkish Armed Forces carried out orders given by me personally."
Given the speed with which the incident occurred, it’s hard to know what to make of Davutoglu’s claim. According to the Turkish government’s own letter of explanation written to the United Nations Security Council, the military gave the Russian jet a series of warnings during a five-minute stretch, warning the pilots to move away from the border.
While the Russian Ministry of Defense has provided video evidence proving that the bomber never entered Turkish airspace, Ankara’s claim alleges that the incursion occurred for only 17 seconds.
It’s hard to imagine military personnel getting through to such a high-ranking government official, explaining the situation, and still having time to fire in a 17-second time frame.
Davutoglu’s statements seem to back up comments made by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov earlier on Wednesday, suggesting that the incident had been premeditated.
"We have serious doubts that it was unintentional, it looks like a planned provocation," he said. "We are not planning to wage a war against Turkey, our attitude towards the Turkish people has not changed. We have questions only to the Turkish leadership."
In response, Turkey’s Western allies in NATO have urged for calm.
"What we are calling for now is calm and de-escalation," NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said during a news conference in Brussels on Tuesday. "Diplomacy and de-escalation are important to resolve this question."
This was also echoed by US President Barack Obama, who told reporters "It’s very important for us right now to make sure both the Russians and the Turks are talking to each other to find out exactly what happened and take measures to discourage any kind of escalation."
While one of the pilots was killed by ground fire after ejecting from the aircraft, the other, Captain Konstantin Murahtin, was rescued. Murahtin also denied that his plane ever entered Turkish airspace, and also refuted claims that Turkey had given multiple warnings.
Russian President Vladimir Putin described the incident as a "stab in the back by accomplices of terrorists." This may not have seemed to make sense at the time he spoke those words, but intelligence has been released showing that Turkey has been accepting into its country ISIS tanker trucks filled with oil, stolen by ISIS, from countries like Iraq and Syria. That oil has then been sold on the Black Market, thus providing ISIS with over $1 Million per day in cash to fund its terrorist operations.
Earlier this month, when Russia began destroying ISIS oil tankers inside Syria, those destroyed oil tanker trucks instantly hit the pocketbook of the officials in Turkey who have been allowing the stolen oil to be sold in Turkey. It seems logical that those officials would receive something in return for accommodating ISIS, and so it is starting to appear to some people, that Turkey is in business with ISIS.
If so, then Turkey is now a state sponsor of terrorism, who just committed a willful act of war against Russia by shooting down a Russian military plane, and killing its pilot.
It is looking like World War 3 is no longer a far fetched notion. The only question is, will NATO side with a member state which has provided material support to ISIS terrorists? If so, then NATO itself will be aiding and abetting ISIS. Thus, we in America will be on the wrong side of any war; it would actually seem that in a very real sense, we will actually be "the bad guys."
UPDATE 6:56 AM Eastern Standard Time -- 26 November 2015 ----- Russian Air Forces have attacked a convoy of Turkish trucks inside Syria. Turkey reports that at least seven Turks are dead, ten or more injured. Turkey also claims the convoy was a "relief convoy" and says Russia has now committed "an act of war." Photos from the attack are now coming in. . . first below:
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