The Body Of Christ Into The Time Of Jacob’s Trouble?
Dec 30, 2015 0:42:20 GMT -5
Post by PrisonerOfHope on Dec 30, 2015 0:42:20 GMT -5
What Is The Point Of Putting The Body Of Christ Into The Time Of Jacob’s Trouble?
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy." Daniel 9:24 (KJV)
by Bro. Jimmy Randolph December 25, 2015
According to God’s word, the Jewish Nation of Israel will go through their time to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Have you ever wondered why God calls it the time of JACOB’S trouble?
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” 1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJV)
Friendly-Fire Warning: I plan on utilizing Proverbs 26:5 KJV (look it up) throughout this article. If you have thin skin or are not willing to stand and defend truth, I’d advised you to not read any further. You’ve been forewarned.
I always find it hilarious dealing with post-tribbers. The ones I deal with can NEVER Biblically answer this question: What is the point of forcing the body of Christ to go through the time of Jacob’s trouble?? What is the purpose?? God is not the author of confusion and God specifically gives us the reason why the Jewish Nation of Israel will go through it:
“Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.” Daniel 9:24 (KJV)
The angel, talking to the Jewish Daniel, said that the 70 weeks are determined upon THY people, the Jews. So according to God’s word, the Jewish Nation of Israel will go through their time to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Have you ever wondered why God calls it the time of JACOB’S trouble? (come now let us REASON together)
HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THIS APPLY TO THE BODY OF CHRIST??
To finish the transgression? – Christ said that it’s ALREADY FINISHED! (John 19:30 KJV)
To make an end of sins? – Christ was ALREADY made sin FOR US! (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV)
To make reconciliation for iniquity? – We’ve ALREADY been reconciled! (2 Corinthians 5:18 KJV)
To bring in everlasting righteousness? – We ALREADY possess God’s righteousness! (Romans 3:21-22 KJV
To seal up the vision and prophecy? – We’re SEALED! (Ephesians 4:30 KJV)
To anoint the most Holy? – We’ve ALREADY been anointed and we’re bone of his bone, flesh of his flesh! Also, we are in Heaven worshipping the Lord BEFORE the anti-christ even hits the scene! (1 John 2:27/ Revelation 5:9-10 KJV)
So once again, what is the purpose of forcing the body of Christ in the Great Tribulation? Let’s start by addressing each kind of post-tribber and their heretical stances. When you narrow it down, there are only TWO kinds of post-tribbers and both kinds have significant delays in the common sense department.
Post-Tribber #1– The eternally secure Post-Tribber:
This is the post-tribber that believes in eternal security and applies it throughout the Great Tribulation. I sarcastically mock this kind of post-tribber by pinpointing the fact they’re practically going to “fake their way” through the Tribulation. I mean seriously, if you’re an eternally secure post-tribber, what is the point of going through the Great Tribulation? Especially when you believe that you can worship the beast, get his name, mark, and number and STILL BE ETERNALLY SECURE AND GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE! Talk about diplomatic immunity!
The Bible is quite clear when it says that people who receive the Mark will not enter into Heaven:
“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” Revelation 20:4 (KJV)
Now, all eternally secure Post-Tribbers attempt to avoid acknowledging this blasphemous belief by saying that “No REAL Christian would worship the beast, etc.” However they can’t provide chapter and verse in the Holy Bible that specifically states that “REAL” Christians in the body of Christ are somehow “constrained” from worshipping the beast, getting his name, number, or mark. But this issue is no surprise since all Post-Tribbers cannot provide chapter and verse for the body of Christ being present in the Great Tribulation to begin with. The eternally secure Post-tribber is going to “endure to the end” when there’s nothing for them to endure! Maybe just for fun, they can see if they can endure until the end of their physical lives, but the Apostle Paul had the exact opposite attitude regarding playing earthly games of survival.
“For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:” Philippians 1:23 (KJV)
So once again, what is the point of forcing the body of Christ in the Great Tribulation?? I’ve heard several pathetic answers for the eternally secure Post-Tribbers in my past:
They say “To earn a Crown of Life!” I then tell them that the Great Tribulation is not the only time of Crown of Life is available and that this crown can also be earned by enduring temptation (James 1:12 KJV). The eternally secure Post-Tribber is completely deluded in their beliefs.
Post-Tribber #2 – The masochist Post-Tribber:
I’ll admit it; this last group of post-tribbers are the most annoying to deal with. They are by far the most blood thirsty, fear mongering, guilty conscience having, vain threatening, anti-biblical bunch out. The masochist post-tribber believes that the body of Christ is somehow mandated to go through vigorous forms of torture or “suffering” in the Great Tribulation in order to “prove” their love for Jesus, “prove” they’re truly Christian, or “prove” that they’re truly saved. The hilarious (or most annoying) part about this kind of post-tribber is that although they don’t believe in eternal security, they won’t necessarily speak against it either. This is where the empty/vain threats come in. You can easily spot the masochist post-tribber by their vain threats against Pre-Trib Bible Believers. They make vain threats such as “when the pretribulation rapture does not happen, you better not deny our Lord!” I then ask them “What if I do? Did Jesus not pay for ALL my sins?” They never reply back. Another empty threat they’ll say to a Pre-Tribber is “When the Lord doesn’t come back to get you, I fear you will not be ready”. I then ask them “Ready for what? Ready to risk losing my salvation? Going to Hell? Ready for what exactly?” No Answer. The one question masochist post-tribbers can NEVER Biblically answer is why God would only make PART of the body of Christ go through the Great Tribulation?? What about the millions of Christians in the body of Christ that died peacefully in a hospital bed like my father? Are you saying that my father and the other millions of Christians that died peacefully and full of years weren’t REAL Christians because they never shed blood or were tortured for the cause of Christ?!? Is only PART of the body of Christ going through the Tribulation to make an atonement for ALL of the members that didn’t shed blood or something?? Sounds as foolish as Mormons baptizing for the dead.
As far as a masochist post-tribber is concerned, ANYBODY that rejects their heretical post-trib doctrine does so because they are “too scared to suffer for Christ”, which again makes absolutely no sense. The Apostle Paul was the one who revealed the pre-time of Jacob’s trouble catching away of the body of Christ and he suffered more than ANY Christian that’s ever lived! It’s also funny that a masochist post-tribber feels like their time to suffer only occurs in the Great Tribulation. If a masochist post-tribber TRULY believed in physically suffering for Christ, they’d go be a Christian in Iran, Egypt, or Iraq today, unless they’re too scared to “suffer for Christ” of course!
To be honest, the masochist post-tribbers thirst to be tortured for “the cause of Christ” reminds me of Baals servants on Mount Carmel:
“And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out” 1 Kings 18:27-28 (KJV)
Why a masochist post-tribber feels like their blood must be shed in order for God to deliver them I have no Idea. Sounds like another spirit to me (1 John 4 KJV).
The post-trib doctrine for the body of Christ is completely foolish and idiotic. What’s worse is that this heretical doctrine is a gateway to many other damnable heresies. Believe God’s words! The body of Christ will be CAUGHT AWAY BEFORE the time of Jacob’s Trouble! (1 Thess 4:16 KJV). If you are a post-tribber reading this, I urge you to REPENT of your heretical views!
Kent Hovind has already made you look foolish enough!
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"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy." Daniel 9:24 (KJV)
by Bro. Jimmy Randolph December 25, 2015
According to God’s word, the Jewish Nation of Israel will go through their time to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Have you ever wondered why God calls it the time of JACOB’S trouble?
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” 1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJV)
Friendly-Fire Warning: I plan on utilizing Proverbs 26:5 KJV (look it up) throughout this article. If you have thin skin or are not willing to stand and defend truth, I’d advised you to not read any further. You’ve been forewarned.
I always find it hilarious dealing with post-tribbers. The ones I deal with can NEVER Biblically answer this question: What is the point of forcing the body of Christ to go through the time of Jacob’s trouble?? What is the purpose?? God is not the author of confusion and God specifically gives us the reason why the Jewish Nation of Israel will go through it:
“Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.” Daniel 9:24 (KJV)
The angel, talking to the Jewish Daniel, said that the 70 weeks are determined upon THY people, the Jews. So according to God’s word, the Jewish Nation of Israel will go through their time to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Have you ever wondered why God calls it the time of JACOB’S trouble? (come now let us REASON together)
HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THIS APPLY TO THE BODY OF CHRIST??
To finish the transgression? – Christ said that it’s ALREADY FINISHED! (John 19:30 KJV)
To make an end of sins? – Christ was ALREADY made sin FOR US! (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV)
To make reconciliation for iniquity? – We’ve ALREADY been reconciled! (2 Corinthians 5:18 KJV)
To bring in everlasting righteousness? – We ALREADY possess God’s righteousness! (Romans 3:21-22 KJV
To seal up the vision and prophecy? – We’re SEALED! (Ephesians 4:30 KJV)
To anoint the most Holy? – We’ve ALREADY been anointed and we’re bone of his bone, flesh of his flesh! Also, we are in Heaven worshipping the Lord BEFORE the anti-christ even hits the scene! (1 John 2:27/ Revelation 5:9-10 KJV)
So once again, what is the purpose of forcing the body of Christ in the Great Tribulation? Let’s start by addressing each kind of post-tribber and their heretical stances. When you narrow it down, there are only TWO kinds of post-tribbers and both kinds have significant delays in the common sense department.
Post-Tribber #1– The eternally secure Post-Tribber:
This is the post-tribber that believes in eternal security and applies it throughout the Great Tribulation. I sarcastically mock this kind of post-tribber by pinpointing the fact they’re practically going to “fake their way” through the Tribulation. I mean seriously, if you’re an eternally secure post-tribber, what is the point of going through the Great Tribulation? Especially when you believe that you can worship the beast, get his name, mark, and number and STILL BE ETERNALLY SECURE AND GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE! Talk about diplomatic immunity!
The Bible is quite clear when it says that people who receive the Mark will not enter into Heaven:
“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” Revelation 20:4 (KJV)
Now, all eternally secure Post-Tribbers attempt to avoid acknowledging this blasphemous belief by saying that “No REAL Christian would worship the beast, etc.” However they can’t provide chapter and verse in the Holy Bible that specifically states that “REAL” Christians in the body of Christ are somehow “constrained” from worshipping the beast, getting his name, number, or mark. But this issue is no surprise since all Post-Tribbers cannot provide chapter and verse for the body of Christ being present in the Great Tribulation to begin with. The eternally secure Post-tribber is going to “endure to the end” when there’s nothing for them to endure! Maybe just for fun, they can see if they can endure until the end of their physical lives, but the Apostle Paul had the exact opposite attitude regarding playing earthly games of survival.
“For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:” Philippians 1:23 (KJV)
So once again, what is the point of forcing the body of Christ in the Great Tribulation?? I’ve heard several pathetic answers for the eternally secure Post-Tribbers in my past:
They say “To earn a Crown of Life!” I then tell them that the Great Tribulation is not the only time of Crown of Life is available and that this crown can also be earned by enduring temptation (James 1:12 KJV). The eternally secure Post-Tribber is completely deluded in their beliefs.
Post-Tribber #2 – The masochist Post-Tribber:
I’ll admit it; this last group of post-tribbers are the most annoying to deal with. They are by far the most blood thirsty, fear mongering, guilty conscience having, vain threatening, anti-biblical bunch out. The masochist post-tribber believes that the body of Christ is somehow mandated to go through vigorous forms of torture or “suffering” in the Great Tribulation in order to “prove” their love for Jesus, “prove” they’re truly Christian, or “prove” that they’re truly saved. The hilarious (or most annoying) part about this kind of post-tribber is that although they don’t believe in eternal security, they won’t necessarily speak against it either. This is where the empty/vain threats come in. You can easily spot the masochist post-tribber by their vain threats against Pre-Trib Bible Believers. They make vain threats such as “when the pretribulation rapture does not happen, you better not deny our Lord!” I then ask them “What if I do? Did Jesus not pay for ALL my sins?” They never reply back. Another empty threat they’ll say to a Pre-Tribber is “When the Lord doesn’t come back to get you, I fear you will not be ready”. I then ask them “Ready for what? Ready to risk losing my salvation? Going to Hell? Ready for what exactly?” No Answer. The one question masochist post-tribbers can NEVER Biblically answer is why God would only make PART of the body of Christ go through the Great Tribulation?? What about the millions of Christians in the body of Christ that died peacefully in a hospital bed like my father? Are you saying that my father and the other millions of Christians that died peacefully and full of years weren’t REAL Christians because they never shed blood or were tortured for the cause of Christ?!? Is only PART of the body of Christ going through the Tribulation to make an atonement for ALL of the members that didn’t shed blood or something?? Sounds as foolish as Mormons baptizing for the dead.
As far as a masochist post-tribber is concerned, ANYBODY that rejects their heretical post-trib doctrine does so because they are “too scared to suffer for Christ”, which again makes absolutely no sense. The Apostle Paul was the one who revealed the pre-time of Jacob’s trouble catching away of the body of Christ and he suffered more than ANY Christian that’s ever lived! It’s also funny that a masochist post-tribber feels like their time to suffer only occurs in the Great Tribulation. If a masochist post-tribber TRULY believed in physically suffering for Christ, they’d go be a Christian in Iran, Egypt, or Iraq today, unless they’re too scared to “suffer for Christ” of course!
To be honest, the masochist post-tribbers thirst to be tortured for “the cause of Christ” reminds me of Baals servants on Mount Carmel:
“And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out” 1 Kings 18:27-28 (KJV)
Why a masochist post-tribber feels like their blood must be shed in order for God to deliver them I have no Idea. Sounds like another spirit to me (1 John 4 KJV).
The post-trib doctrine for the body of Christ is completely foolish and idiotic. What’s worse is that this heretical doctrine is a gateway to many other damnable heresies. Believe God’s words! The body of Christ will be CAUGHT AWAY BEFORE the time of Jacob’s Trouble! (1 Thess 4:16 KJV). If you are a post-tribber reading this, I urge you to REPENT of your heretical views!
Kent Hovind has already made you look foolish enough!
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