New Age Connection

[DUST IN THE WIND]

Hindu gods = Nephilim?

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[shann0]

Possibly. Many are half man, half beast. Or else the fallen ones themselves...

[emortimer]

This is a study my Aunt did on this

it is in the Bible and angels came down and took human wives is the basic

THE NEPHILIM



I listed below scripture and the meanings of some of the words. I decided the easiest way to present my understanding is just say what the scripture says to me and then after that, list the scripture references I used.



In the account of Noahs flood, the KJV says Noah was pure in his generations. This does not mean the day he lived because than would it say in his generation singular. It says the sons of God saw the daughters of man and they were beautiful and they took them and married them and had children. The Hebrew lexicon calls these “son’s of God ben elohiym or angels. The offspring of the Nephilim (sons of God in the NIV translation) were giants. They were genetically altered. Satan knew from Genesis that the seed of the woman would crush his head. He used the Nephilim (the fallen angels) to corrupt the seed of woman so the Messiah’s birth would be stopped. Noah was pure in his generations (genetic makeup) so God restarted humanity from Noah and his wife to remove the corruption of the genetic pool.



6: 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days –and also afterward- when tthe sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. That brings us to what some call “The Righteous Line of Seth.” They were not saved from the flood, so they were not righteous and they were not present after the flood. The Righteous Line of Seth in not backed up by Scripture. The offspring of the Nephilim were genetically altered. They were called giants. They were not from two humans, who would not have produced giants. Fossil records show not only were they much taller than humans they had two sets of teeth instead of one like humans and they had 12 fingers and 12 toes.



Deut 3:11 talk about the cities of Bashan. These included the cities of the King of Og. These areas inhabited by the Nephilim. Ps 22 talks about the bulls of Bashan tormenting Christ as he hung dying on the cross. This was in the spiritual realm and Bashan is scripturally the area of the Nephilim.



Although, I do not think backing up my understanding with anything other scripture actually does help interpret scripture, Josephus wrote that the son’s of God were angels. In that time period that was accepted meaning of Nephilim. Expositional Constantcy- when the Bible explains a word that is what it always means. Sons of God-Angels



Jude 6-7 tells of the Nephilim who left their first estate (Heaven) to come to earth and corrupt mankind. The angels are bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. As Sodom and Gomorrah gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion they serve as an example of the punishment for sexual perversion. It is called strange flesh. According to the Lexicon "strange” means deity or angels. And flesh means humans. So this phrase “strange flesh” would mean angels not humans.



2 Peter2:4 God spared not the angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah…. God destroyed the Nephilim when he destroyed all but Noah and seven others. This group also included the line of Seth. The Nephilim once again came into the daughters of men after the flood. This group included Goliath. Most of them were destroyed by Josiah and his men.



Next the argument is do angels have sexual relations.



See Matt 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels IN HEAVEN. This does not say Angels in heaven (their first Estate) cannot engage in sex, it says they Do Not engage in sex. Jesus also specifically says Angels IN HEAVEN. It does not address Angels who have left their first estate and are now “the sons’ of God” on earth, the Nephilim. I think it is important to note that Jesus made it a point to be specific that he was speaking about the angels in Heaven. .



Mat 24:37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
Mat 24:38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark

At Christ’s second coming it will as it was in the days of Noah. One of the signs of the times of Noah was the Nephilim and genetic tampering. Now there is much going with genetic tampering through stem cell research and cloning. We know during the tribulation the Nephilim will be released. We also know that at the time of the rapture people were eating and drinking, Marrying and giving in marriage. So it appears the rapture happens before the economical collapse of the World and the one world currency and government ruled by the antichrist, when all will be forced to take the mark of the beast to be able to buy or sell.



2Th 2:1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers,
2Th 2:2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come
2Th 2:3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
2Th 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
2Th 2:5 Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
2Th 2:7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.

Who is the lawless one and who is holding him back. The lawless one is the antichrist who confirms a 7 year peace pace with Israel thereby beginning the tribulation on earth. The 70th week of Daniel. The one holding him back is the holy spirit who lives forever in the church. In order to remove the Holy Spirit, the church must be removed also this is the Rapture of the Church which happens before the 7 year tribulation. The antichrist is revealed and the Nephilim who are in chains in the abyss will be released.



This section is by Judy a member of my church

Pat, I looked up the Nephilim.

There is a lot of support of Genesis 6: 1-4 that said the "sons of god
intermarried with the daughters of man."


Read Jude verses 14-15 2nd Peter 2:4 Numbers 13:33 Amos 2:9

A lot of people cite Matthew 22:30 as saying angels could not marry. I went
online and pulled up www. Got Questions.org The commentary there stated
"Matthew 22:30 "pertained only to angels in heaven, not to fallen angels who
don't care about God's created order. The fact that God's angels do not
marry or engage in sexual relations does not mean the same is true for Satan
and his angels. Genesis 19:1-5 The men in Sodom and Gomorrah wanted to have
sex with the two angels who visited Lot. Lot said, no. Those who visited Lot
were Holy angels. Mark 15:5 describes a man in a white robe inside Jesus'
tomb. Matthew 28:2 describes this man as an angel. (Of course those angels
described in Mark and Matthew were heavenly angels that appeared human.)

Angels appearing as humans could also mean even to the point of replicating
human sexuality and possibly even reproduction.

Why do fallen angels not do this more often? It seems God imprisoned the
fallen angels who committed this evil sin so that other fallen angels would
not do the same as described in the biblical book of Jude verse 6."

From Wikipedia: "The Apocrypha ( the books we do not include in our Bible,
but the Catholics do) support Genesis 6:2 as fallen angels. The books from
there which support it are Sirach, 'Enoch, the Book of 3rd Maccabees,
Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon. The Dead Sea Scrolls also talk about these
angels as fallen angels." The books of Maccabees tell the story of
Hanukkah."


Judy



Lexicon Results for Sons of God

Strong's H1121 - ben

בֵּן

Transliteration

ben

Pronunciation

bān (Key)

Part of Speech

masculine noun

Root Word (Etymology)

From ×‘Ö¼Ö¸× Ö¸×” (H1129)

TWOT Reference

254

Variant Spellings

The following spelling is supported by Strongs and Gesenius: בן.

[What are these variants?]

Outline of Biblical Usage

f) sons (as characterisation, i.e. sons of injustice [for un- righteous men] or sons of God [for angels]

Strong's H430 - 'elohiym

אֱלֹהִים

Transliteration

'elohiym

Pronunciation

el·ō·hēm' (Key)

Part of Speech

masculine noun

Root Word (Etymology)

Plural of אֱלוֹהַּ (H433)

TWOT Reference

93c

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) (plural)

a) rulers, judges

b) divine ones

c) angels

d) gods

2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)

a) god, goddess

b) godlike one

c) works or special possessions of God

d) the (true) God

e) God

So sons of God is translated Ben elohiym or Angels



Num 13:33 We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them." Anak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to the Book of Numbers, during the conquest of Canaan by the Israelites, Anak (Heb. 'nq) was a well known figure, and a forefather of the Anakites (Heb. Anakim) who have been considered "strong and tall," they were also said to have been a mixed race of giant people, descendants of the Nephilim





Deu 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead [was] a bedstead of iron; [is] it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits [was] the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.





Psa 22:12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong [bulls] of Bashan have beset me round.
Psa 22:13 They gaped upon me [with] their mouths, [as] a ravening and a roaring lion. [] Psa 22:14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
Psa 22:15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.



Bashan is the area where the Nephilim were. According to Pastor Joe of Philadelphia they were tormenting Christ when he was dying on the cross because they thought they finally stopped the seed of the woman.



Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

ud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Strange Flesh not human. Angels.

These angels are the Nephilim. They will be released again after the rapture because the Holy Spirit is holding them back until then.



Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.



This verse say Angels of God in Heaven are not given in marriage. This verse does not say Angels of God cannot have sexual relations….It says the angels of God IN HEAVEN do not…not they cannot…they do not.

[shann0]

This seems like a perfect place to share this link. I don't know where I ran across it. It's a pretty exhaustive study of the fallen. Although I don't agree with all his conclusions, I'm sure most will find it very informative. For the sake of space, I won't post the entire contents here. You'll have to go to the link. This study is massive, but well worth the time it takes to go through it.

www.ryanmcginty.com/fallen/

AN EXEGETICAL ANALYSIS ON THE CORRELATIONS BETWEEN
BIBLICAL DEMONOLOGY AND CONTEMPORARY UFOLOGY

The intention of this document, is to show obvious "truths" connecting the angels and demons of the bible, with the modern day anomalies known as "Aliens", and their craft. That the bible DOES speak about these anomalies, and will be shown to be shockingly true. I shall remain for the most part within the confines of the 1611 English version of the King James Bible, and Strong's Greek and Hebrew concordance, even though I don't subscribe to the "King James Only" club. I know, that ALL the translations that we have are rooted back to the SAME sources. The difference between our modern day versions of the bible is in the choice of adjectives used in the description of words from the original languages (Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, chaldean), and outright blatant "liberties" taken by the translators. The reality is, ALL of our versions have translating errors that have distorted CORRECT biblical interpretations of many areas of scripture. One of the reasons for this is due to linguistic barriers (our English language is considerably smaller than the Greek and Hebrew, with limited word definition in comparison). This has caused a great deal of confusion in specific areas of interpretation. The King James isn't really any better than the other versions (there's some 6000 ADDED words, plus numerous translating errors and interpretation liberties taken), but it does NOT step on the DEITY of Jesus Christ like most other translations. The fact of the matter is, man HAS had his grubby mitts on the Word of God, but God designed the Word in such a way, that the original meanings can NOT be tampered with by man, no matter how hard he tries. The Lord has done this with the "etymology" (the science of words and their origins) of his written Word. It is ONLY from the etymology, that 21st century man can ever know for sure what God really has said and thereby meant. Etymology is failsafe in this regard. Man for all intensive purposes, has translated and interpreted God's word according to HIS perspective and contextualization for 2000 years. The original "oracles" of God (Hebrew prophets and scribes), managed to keep Gods word "pure" etymologically in translation up to the time of Christ, enabling us today to have a pure "source" (Old Testament). Etymology is the "foundation" of all other areas of theology (eschatology, hermeneutics, etc.). The same principle applies to the New Testament. It was written in a form of Greek called "koine", which is pure etymologically. The emphasis of this dissertation will be in the area of the bible interpretation, as it is THE authority of ALL TRUTH as far as I'm concerned. Therefore, the answers to ALL things can be found in its pages. I will refer to sources outside the canon of scripture, when it is deemed imperative to subject illumination, without disturbing biblical integrity. There are basically four major time-frames in the bible dealing with major activity of Satan and his host. They are:
* Pre-Adamic time

* just prior to the flood


* the time period of Jesus Christ's ministry


* the "latter-days" and the Tribulation period


I will be dealing with all four of these time periods in no set order, as most of what is being revealed about the enemy, is interlaced in prophecy. Also, because somethings must be brought to light first, in order for other things to be understood. I shall leave and discuss the area of pre-adamic time till the end of this document, as it must be discussed and looked at by itself.

continued....
www.ryanmcginty.com/fallen/