Misled or Mad? The lunacy of $2.34,"5, 6, 7 Jesus!" and more
Feb 22, 2022 22:39:28 GMT -5
Post by PrisonerOfHope on Feb 22, 2022 22:39:28 GMT -5
Sad to say, as we draw closer and closer to the rapture of the Church, the spiritual deception that Jesus warned about will only get worse. Unfortunately, for many professing Christians the Word of God isn't enough, so they look for extrabiblical messages in dreams, prophecies, signs, and visions, disregarding God's warnings against false prophets, divination, numerology, and various other forbidden practices. Many - perhaps most - of the voices they claim to hear are from their own imaginations; others are the whispers of familiar spirits who gleefully amuse themselves by beguiling the spiritually ignorant. There are more people today who claim to be prophets than there are pages in the Bible, but in actuality the Canon is closed and prophecy was a foundational gift that has passed away. Few heed the warnings of Deut. 18:20, Ezek. 13:6, Ezek. 13:9, Ezek. 22:28, Jer. 5:31, Jer. 14:14, Jer. 23:15, and more. To proclaim the truth of prophecies outside of those in Scripture is the heresy of Montanism, but in their pride (and delusion) people like to believe that they've been specially chosen by God to be prophets, while others love to have their ears tickled and delight in the proclamations of the latest popular "prophet."
It's probable that many of those who claim to be "prophets" are on the schizophrenic spectrum, as religious delusions are not only the most common among the mentally ill, but are also among the most difficult to cure. Yes they persist in their madness untreated, and lead hundreds - if not thousands - astray with their proclamations, prophecies, and tall tales which the biblically ignorant and gullible eagerly embrace.
Two of the most popular delusions I've come across will be addressed here. One is from a man named Vincent Tan who, almost 30 years ago claims to have had encounters with angels, including the Angel Gabriel, and the other is from a woman named Charity who claims she heard the words, "5,6,7 Jesus!" followed by a slamming door as she was developing a migraine in 2009.
It is both humorous and disturbing that for many years people on "Christian" websites have spent innumerable hours trying to interpret the meaning of these two events, when in reality they mean...absolutely nothing. As far as Vincent Tan goes, he undoubtedly either imagined the angel encounters, or was the object of trickery by familiar spirits. As for Charity, auditory hallucinations, while uncommon, do occur before or during migraine attacks, and usually feature the sound of human voices. They're also a symptom of schizophrenia.
Most upsetting of all are the many so-called Christians who view these two events with the same - or even greater - sense of awe as they do Holy Writ. "$2.34" and "5,6,7 Jesus!" have been the subjects of many on-line discussions, and new theories are eagerly embraced until they fail and someone comes up with a new one. No, these people aren't drinking the actual Kool-Ade that Jim Jones' followers did, but they're drinking a spiritual Kool-Ade which is just as dangerous, if not more so. To be deceived oneself is bad enough, but to deceive many, many others is unconscionable and both Vincent Tan and Charity will have a lot to answer for.
I'll just cover the basic explanation of these two spiritual deceptions here; for more information (including some of the insane interpretations of them), just Google "Vincent Tan $2.34" and "Charity 5,6,7 Jesus!" You can also enter those terms in the search box on the "Here's Your Sign" thread.
Vincent Tan and $2.34
I recently confirmed personally with Vincent that he has had another encounter, this time with an unnamed angel, on Thursday, December 23, 1993. Like the above, the following is an accurate record of exactly what happened and words exchanged.
Two Significant Prior Events. There are two events that have a bearing on this one. First, in July, 1993, Vincent had a dream. He saw himself standing at the door of a big room. He saw many candles, but not all of them were lit. He asked himself in the dream why the unlit candles. Then he heard a sad voice behind him saying, "If only all of them were lit." He turned around but didn't see anyone. A week later he had the exact same dream. Vincent shared the dreams in his Bible study and said he hoped someday the Lord would show him the meaning of the dreams.
Second, three months later in October, 1993 a stranded motorist waved Vincent down and asked him to jump start his car. Vincent stopped but did not have a cable. However, Vincent asked the man if he believed in God. The man asked what could God do. Vincent told him he believed that God could help in any situation such as this if we ask Him. So Vincent prayed out loud for God's help. After he prayed Vincent noticed a coat hanger on the road.
Somehow, he figured out a way to break the coat hanger in two and use one part to connect the positive terminals and the other part to touch the two auto bodies together as ground. The man's car started. He looked at Vincent and said, "You sure have a powerful God!" Vincent said, "I sure do. All we have to do is believe in Him." The man said, "I'll have to think about that," and left. Two days later, Vincent got a jumper cable for his truck.
The December 23, 1993 Experience. Shortly after 11 p.m.,
December 23, 1993, Vincent was in his truck returning home from visiting a friend near Chattanooga. About four miles away from the friend's home, he saw a truck alongside the road with its hood up and with an old man, estimated at about age 75, standing in front of it. Vincent was always wary of stopping for strangers, and believed one must really be led of the Lord in order to do so. He felt he should stop. He walked up to the man and asked if anything was wrong, to which the man replied that he a dead battery. Vincent asked if he could help in any way. The man asked that Vincent go get his jumper cable out of the truck. Vincent was surprised that he said this, as if knowing that Vincent had a jumper cable, especially since he had only recently obtained one. Vincent himself had forgotten that he had the cable, but when the old man told him about it he remembered. It was very dark and Vincent had to use his flashlight to see to connect his end of the cable. Then he turned around to discover that the man had already connected his end, even in the dark and with no flashlight. That seemed impossible, and startled Vincent.
Vincent said, "I need to do something first." The man looked at him and said, "I did it already." Vincent said, "Did what?" The man said, "I placed the bricks by your tires. That's what you want, isn't it?" The man had no way of knowing that Vincent had two bricks in his truck or that he wanted to block his tires with them because he didn't trust his hand brake and because the gear would have to be in neutral to start the other truck. Vincent checked and discovered that the man had placed the bricks behind the exact same tires that Vincent wanted. At this point, Vincent was convinced that this was not a natural person. And after the experience in March, Vincent had decided that if the Lord ever gave him the privilege of another encounter with an angel, he had many questions he wanted to ask. But he had a sudden feeling come over him and some force caused his mouth to be kept shut. He was not able to say anything except to respond to whatever the old man wanted or said.
Vincent was now ready to start the truck, and the old man said, "Can we wait in your truck and have my truck charged up?"
Vincent agreed and they sat in his truck. The old man spoke first and said, "Can we pray? God can work miracles -- even start a car with a coat hanger." (The previous incident with the coat hanger job was a car and not a truck!) At this, Vincent said to himself that this stranger must be an angel!
The old man prayed: "Oh most holy and powerful God in heaven, we know you are coming very, very soon. Help us now in your own time and way. In Jesus' Name. Amen." Vincent said the man's voice was so powerful and assuring that it sent chills through him. After the prayer the man asked Vincent, "Do you believe the Lord is coming soon?" Vincent said yes. Then the man said, "He is coming very, very soon, and we need to be ready now and always." Then he said, "Can I use your Bible?" Vincent agreed, then without any word from Vincent the man reached into the glove compartment for the Bible, already knowing where it was located.
The man asked Vincent, "Do you read your Bible.?" Vincent replied that he tried to read it every day. The man said, "That's very good. It's unfortunate that many do not do that. Having Bible studies is like being in a big room with many candles that are lit." Vincent knew he had God's answer about his dreams six months earlier. The unlit candles meant many people were not spending time studying God's Word! Now Vincent had absolutely no doubt that this was an angel.
It was very dark, but the man took Vincent's King James Bible and, without searching, flipped immediately to the exact page, to Matthew, chapter 24. Then Vincent shined the flashlight on the page as the man read verse 36: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." He then jumped down to verse 42: "Watch therefore, for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."
Then again, as if knowing exactly where the page was, without searching he flipped to John, chapter 14, and read verses 1-3: "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."
Then again, he amazingly flipped directly to Revelation 3, verse 11, and read: "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." With that, the man put the Bible back in the glove compartment. Vincent reflected that all three passages, and everything the man said, was about the Lord's return.
After reading, the man put the Bible back and said, "The truck is ready." He started the truck and Vincent said he would follow him for awhile to make sure everything was okay. The man said, "Thank you very much for your help. By the way, I left a small token for you. It will be enough to fill up your car tomorrow." That was strange, because there was no way for the man to know that Vincent had a car in addition to his truck. Vincent followed him about a mile with the man's tail lights clearly in view, then as they were going around a curve, he suddenly vanished from view. He and his truck just disappeared. Thinking his vision may have been obstructed by trees or something, Vincent even went back the next day during the daylight and retraced everything. There were no trees or anything obstructing his view. There was no human explanation. Also the next day, as he always does on Friday, Vincent took his car to the service station to fill up the tank with gasoline, so it would be full for the weekend. He had forgotten what the man had said about leaving a token "to fill up your car tomorrow." Vincent put $2.32 worth of gas in his car, then tried to round it off to $2.35 or $2.40. But he could only get it up to $2.34 and it stopped. It just would not take more than exactly $2.34.
Vincent then left to visit a friend's house, but remembered that he had left the friend's Christmas gift in his truck, so he went back home. When home, Vincent decided to clean his truck a bit before leaving. While doing so, he found some money on the front seat, passenger's side, underneath his glove. The money consisted of two one-dollar bills, a quarter, a nickel, and four pennies -- exactly $2.34!"
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"Charity's Vision Explained"
Since April 2009 we have all been perplexed by the vision that Charity had. Here is her original testimony:
Charity
Apr 22, 2009 - 4:30PM
I heard, "5, 6, 7, JESUS!" as Noah's Ark closed with a bang!
Okay, this is crazy!
I was in the kitchen cleaning up from lunch when I suddenly got a splitting headache! So I quickly got the rest of the food in the fridge while cringing in pain, and then lay down with a pillow over my head (my "do not disturb" sign)
Well, anyway, about five minutes after laying down, I heard "5, 6, 7, JESUS!" in my head. This kept repeating over and over..."5, 6, 7, JESUS!" And with each "JESUS", I saw the door of Noah's Ark being shut with a loud "BANG". So I heard "JESUS" and "BANG" at the same time.
Any ideas about the "5, 6, 7"? I really don't know. I've still got a pretty bad headache, but I just HAD to come post this and see what y'all think. I'll check back in a bit!
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Most attempts to interpret this vision have focused on the sequence of numbers, with the expectation that the Rapture will occur on the 7th or 8th day of a month, without explaining why the sequence begins with the number 5. The real reason that these numbers "5, 6, 7" are listed is that the Rapture event occurs 5 years, 6 years, and 7 years after a single triad event, namely the triad of total solar eclipses that occurred at the beginning of Av on the following dates:
Av 5768, Av 5769, and Av 5770
This vision indeed alerts us to the door slamming shut and the Rapture taking place in Av 5775 (2015!) -- this month!! Praise the Lord!
---------------------------------------------
Clearly, these people are so far gone they believe any ridiculous nonsense as long as it's wrapped in spiritual terms and to their detriment never learn from multiple fails!
It's probable that many of those who claim to be "prophets" are on the schizophrenic spectrum, as religious delusions are not only the most common among the mentally ill, but are also among the most difficult to cure. Yes they persist in their madness untreated, and lead hundreds - if not thousands - astray with their proclamations, prophecies, and tall tales which the biblically ignorant and gullible eagerly embrace.
Two of the most popular delusions I've come across will be addressed here. One is from a man named Vincent Tan who, almost 30 years ago claims to have had encounters with angels, including the Angel Gabriel, and the other is from a woman named Charity who claims she heard the words, "5,6,7 Jesus!" followed by a slamming door as she was developing a migraine in 2009.
It is both humorous and disturbing that for many years people on "Christian" websites have spent innumerable hours trying to interpret the meaning of these two events, when in reality they mean...absolutely nothing. As far as Vincent Tan goes, he undoubtedly either imagined the angel encounters, or was the object of trickery by familiar spirits. As for Charity, auditory hallucinations, while uncommon, do occur before or during migraine attacks, and usually feature the sound of human voices. They're also a symptom of schizophrenia.
Most upsetting of all are the many so-called Christians who view these two events with the same - or even greater - sense of awe as they do Holy Writ. "$2.34" and "5,6,7 Jesus!" have been the subjects of many on-line discussions, and new theories are eagerly embraced until they fail and someone comes up with a new one. No, these people aren't drinking the actual Kool-Ade that Jim Jones' followers did, but they're drinking a spiritual Kool-Ade which is just as dangerous, if not more so. To be deceived oneself is bad enough, but to deceive many, many others is unconscionable and both Vincent Tan and Charity will have a lot to answer for.
I'll just cover the basic explanation of these two spiritual deceptions here; for more information (including some of the insane interpretations of them), just Google "Vincent Tan $2.34" and "Charity 5,6,7 Jesus!" You can also enter those terms in the search box on the "Here's Your Sign" thread.
Vincent Tan and $2.34
I recently confirmed personally with Vincent that he has had another encounter, this time with an unnamed angel, on Thursday, December 23, 1993. Like the above, the following is an accurate record of exactly what happened and words exchanged.
Two Significant Prior Events. There are two events that have a bearing on this one. First, in July, 1993, Vincent had a dream. He saw himself standing at the door of a big room. He saw many candles, but not all of them were lit. He asked himself in the dream why the unlit candles. Then he heard a sad voice behind him saying, "If only all of them were lit." He turned around but didn't see anyone. A week later he had the exact same dream. Vincent shared the dreams in his Bible study and said he hoped someday the Lord would show him the meaning of the dreams.
Second, three months later in October, 1993 a stranded motorist waved Vincent down and asked him to jump start his car. Vincent stopped but did not have a cable. However, Vincent asked the man if he believed in God. The man asked what could God do. Vincent told him he believed that God could help in any situation such as this if we ask Him. So Vincent prayed out loud for God's help. After he prayed Vincent noticed a coat hanger on the road.
Somehow, he figured out a way to break the coat hanger in two and use one part to connect the positive terminals and the other part to touch the two auto bodies together as ground. The man's car started. He looked at Vincent and said, "You sure have a powerful God!" Vincent said, "I sure do. All we have to do is believe in Him." The man said, "I'll have to think about that," and left. Two days later, Vincent got a jumper cable for his truck.
The December 23, 1993 Experience. Shortly after 11 p.m.,
December 23, 1993, Vincent was in his truck returning home from visiting a friend near Chattanooga. About four miles away from the friend's home, he saw a truck alongside the road with its hood up and with an old man, estimated at about age 75, standing in front of it. Vincent was always wary of stopping for strangers, and believed one must really be led of the Lord in order to do so. He felt he should stop. He walked up to the man and asked if anything was wrong, to which the man replied that he a dead battery. Vincent asked if he could help in any way. The man asked that Vincent go get his jumper cable out of the truck. Vincent was surprised that he said this, as if knowing that Vincent had a jumper cable, especially since he had only recently obtained one. Vincent himself had forgotten that he had the cable, but when the old man told him about it he remembered. It was very dark and Vincent had to use his flashlight to see to connect his end of the cable. Then he turned around to discover that the man had already connected his end, even in the dark and with no flashlight. That seemed impossible, and startled Vincent.
Vincent said, "I need to do something first." The man looked at him and said, "I did it already." Vincent said, "Did what?" The man said, "I placed the bricks by your tires. That's what you want, isn't it?" The man had no way of knowing that Vincent had two bricks in his truck or that he wanted to block his tires with them because he didn't trust his hand brake and because the gear would have to be in neutral to start the other truck. Vincent checked and discovered that the man had placed the bricks behind the exact same tires that Vincent wanted. At this point, Vincent was convinced that this was not a natural person. And after the experience in March, Vincent had decided that if the Lord ever gave him the privilege of another encounter with an angel, he had many questions he wanted to ask. But he had a sudden feeling come over him and some force caused his mouth to be kept shut. He was not able to say anything except to respond to whatever the old man wanted or said.
Vincent was now ready to start the truck, and the old man said, "Can we wait in your truck and have my truck charged up?"
Vincent agreed and they sat in his truck. The old man spoke first and said, "Can we pray? God can work miracles -- even start a car with a coat hanger." (The previous incident with the coat hanger job was a car and not a truck!) At this, Vincent said to himself that this stranger must be an angel!
The old man prayed: "Oh most holy and powerful God in heaven, we know you are coming very, very soon. Help us now in your own time and way. In Jesus' Name. Amen." Vincent said the man's voice was so powerful and assuring that it sent chills through him. After the prayer the man asked Vincent, "Do you believe the Lord is coming soon?" Vincent said yes. Then the man said, "He is coming very, very soon, and we need to be ready now and always." Then he said, "Can I use your Bible?" Vincent agreed, then without any word from Vincent the man reached into the glove compartment for the Bible, already knowing where it was located.
The man asked Vincent, "Do you read your Bible.?" Vincent replied that he tried to read it every day. The man said, "That's very good. It's unfortunate that many do not do that. Having Bible studies is like being in a big room with many candles that are lit." Vincent knew he had God's answer about his dreams six months earlier. The unlit candles meant many people were not spending time studying God's Word! Now Vincent had absolutely no doubt that this was an angel.
It was very dark, but the man took Vincent's King James Bible and, without searching, flipped immediately to the exact page, to Matthew, chapter 24. Then Vincent shined the flashlight on the page as the man read verse 36: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." He then jumped down to verse 42: "Watch therefore, for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."
Then again, as if knowing exactly where the page was, without searching he flipped to John, chapter 14, and read verses 1-3: "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."
Then again, he amazingly flipped directly to Revelation 3, verse 11, and read: "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." With that, the man put the Bible back in the glove compartment. Vincent reflected that all three passages, and everything the man said, was about the Lord's return.
After reading, the man put the Bible back and said, "The truck is ready." He started the truck and Vincent said he would follow him for awhile to make sure everything was okay. The man said, "Thank you very much for your help. By the way, I left a small token for you. It will be enough to fill up your car tomorrow." That was strange, because there was no way for the man to know that Vincent had a car in addition to his truck. Vincent followed him about a mile with the man's tail lights clearly in view, then as they were going around a curve, he suddenly vanished from view. He and his truck just disappeared. Thinking his vision may have been obstructed by trees or something, Vincent even went back the next day during the daylight and retraced everything. There were no trees or anything obstructing his view. There was no human explanation. Also the next day, as he always does on Friday, Vincent took his car to the service station to fill up the tank with gasoline, so it would be full for the weekend. He had forgotten what the man had said about leaving a token "to fill up your car tomorrow." Vincent put $2.32 worth of gas in his car, then tried to round it off to $2.35 or $2.40. But he could only get it up to $2.34 and it stopped. It just would not take more than exactly $2.34.
Vincent then left to visit a friend's house, but remembered that he had left the friend's Christmas gift in his truck, so he went back home. When home, Vincent decided to clean his truck a bit before leaving. While doing so, he found some money on the front seat, passenger's side, underneath his glove. The money consisted of two one-dollar bills, a quarter, a nickel, and four pennies -- exactly $2.34!"
link
"Charity's Vision Explained"
Since April 2009 we have all been perplexed by the vision that Charity had. Here is her original testimony:
Charity
Apr 22, 2009 - 4:30PM
I heard, "5, 6, 7, JESUS!" as Noah's Ark closed with a bang!
Okay, this is crazy!
I was in the kitchen cleaning up from lunch when I suddenly got a splitting headache! So I quickly got the rest of the food in the fridge while cringing in pain, and then lay down with a pillow over my head (my "do not disturb" sign)
Well, anyway, about five minutes after laying down, I heard "5, 6, 7, JESUS!" in my head. This kept repeating over and over..."5, 6, 7, JESUS!" And with each "JESUS", I saw the door of Noah's Ark being shut with a loud "BANG". So I heard "JESUS" and "BANG" at the same time.
Any ideas about the "5, 6, 7"? I really don't know. I've still got a pretty bad headache, but I just HAD to come post this and see what y'all think. I'll check back in a bit!
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Most attempts to interpret this vision have focused on the sequence of numbers, with the expectation that the Rapture will occur on the 7th or 8th day of a month, without explaining why the sequence begins with the number 5. The real reason that these numbers "5, 6, 7" are listed is that the Rapture event occurs 5 years, 6 years, and 7 years after a single triad event, namely the triad of total solar eclipses that occurred at the beginning of Av on the following dates:
Av 5768, Av 5769, and Av 5770
This vision indeed alerts us to the door slamming shut and the Rapture taking place in Av 5775 (2015!) -- this month!! Praise the Lord!
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Clearly, these people are so far gone they believe any ridiculous nonsense as long as it's wrapped in spiritual terms and to their detriment never learn from multiple fails!
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