The Goofy Theology of Geoffrey Grider (Now the End Begins)
Jul 12, 2022 22:00:26 GMT -5
Post by PrisonerOfHope on Jul 12, 2022 22:00:26 GMT -5
For those of you who are fans of Now the End Begins, you know that Geoffrey Grider is a member of the King James Only cult. Now, if that's your Bible version of choice there's nothing wrong with that, but keep in mind, those who translated the original Hebrew and Greek texts were only that: TRANSLATORS, and they were not divinely inspired. In fact, the KJV has numerous errors; Charlie Garrett has made a list of them at this link. (There undoubtedly are more.)
Like so many professing Christians who have blogs and/or YouTube channels, Mr. Grider thrives on sensationalism, as can be ascertained by simply looking at the headlines on his site. As for his "theology," well...here are just a few examples of some of the utter nonsense he teaches:
Pin the tail on the Antichrist...and twist Scripture while you're at it to prove you're right!
Does The King James Bible Reveal The Identity Of The Coming End Times Antichrist?
As Christians, we are commanded to wait and look for the Glorious Appearing of the Lord Jesus Christ in the clouds to rapture us up and out of here, and so we do. No where (sic) in Scripture does it command Christians to look for the Antichrist. But God, in His amazing mercy towards us, wants us to have as much information as possible as we battle the world, the flesh and the Devil. We are not ignorant of the Enemy’s devices, and knowing Scripture prepares us for battle. So using Paul’s clues, let’s take a ride through the Bible and see about this son of perdition.
“While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.” John 17:12 (KJV)
No surprise that our search leads us back to John, Paul and John are tag-team prophecy warriors who back each other up, and here we seeing Jesus talking about the son of perdition. It is the same son of perdition that Paul referenced, none other than Judas Iscariot, the Betrayer. But there’s more….
“Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.” John 13:26 (KJV)
Here we have Judas in the act of betrayal, and it is a stunning example of why we only use the King James Bible. Jesus is talking about handing a “sop” to someone, and then dipping it in a dish. Anyone who has ever spent time with Italian people who can cook know exactly what a sop is. My friend Andy’s mom used to make what Italians call “gravy”, or spaghetti sauce, and it would simmer on the stove for hours. When it was close to done, we would take a fresh piece of Italian bread and dip it in the pot, and we would “sop it up”. Delicious! Now do you see what a sop is? It is a piece of bread for dipping in sauce or olive oil. The NIV renders the sop of John 13:26 as “bread”, and in doing so, throws one of the biggest prophecy clues right out the window. Yes, a sop is a piece of bread – BUT – it is much more than that. Bread is just bread , but a sop is a clue.
S = Son | O = Of | P = Perdition. Bam! After 23 years of knowing this and teaching this to people it still sends chills down my spine. God is so good.
Now do you see why we say God has preserved His word in the KJV? But there’s more, we are not done yet.
“That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.” Acts 1:25 (KJV)
When Judas killed himself after the world’s greatest betrayal, he didn’t simply go to Hell, not at all. He went to his own, very special holding area that we see mentioned in Acts 1:25. One reason for this special place is because God is not done with him just yet. In the Time of Jacob’s Trouble, Judas is going to come back as the Antichrist. Why? Because Paul already told you he would in 2 Thessalonians, remember? “and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;“. In fact, lots of people make a reappearance. Moses and Elijah come back as the Two Witnesses, Judas comes back as the Antichrist, and of course, Jesus comes back as Himself. Yay! (Full article here.)
The title of this article says it all! A careful reading of the Bible (in your favorite translation, whatever it may be) will prove that there's are TWO wars of Gog and Magog, each with a different purpose and end result. In the one described in Ezekiel 38 a coalition of nations comes against Israel "to take a spoil," and 5/6 of them are killed by the hand of God, with the blood running as high as a horse's bridle. In the Gog and Magog war described in Rev. 20, Satan is released for a time, deceives the unbelievers of the Earth, and leads them in a battle to take Jerusalem, God's holy city. This time fire comes down from heaven and consumes the attackers, and Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire, never to be heard from again. A mess like this article is what you get when someone "thinks" he's a Bible scholar, but is actually quite ignorant. (For the record, I graduated seminary with a Master's in Theological Studies.)
The Battle Of Gog And Magog Cannot Take Place For A Minimum Of A Thousand And Seven Years From Today
According to Bible prophecy, the Battle of Gog and Magog takes places immediately after the Thousand Year Reign of King Jesus is finished on this earth.
(Full article here).
Then there's this hot mess. You need to be careful - he's very sly in this article... Yes,there are different promises for the Church and for Israel, but there is only ONE Gospel, that of Jesus Christ and Him crucified for the forgiveness of sin and risen from the dead. The four gospels were written to the Jews; the Church did not exist until Pentecost. Grider is another one who's going to have a lot to answer for come Judgment Day!
Does Geoffrey Grider teach Bible Truth? Yes, he does...but these three articles are only a sampling of his false teachings that are sprinkled throughout his website - there are others. (I can't find it right now, but in one article he asserted that at the rapture the saved believers were going to travel bilions and billons of miles through outer space on horses to get to heaven! 🤣) Keep in mind: 99% of rat poison is wholesome cornmeal; it's the 1% of arsenic that's the killer. Or as Charles Spurgeon said, "Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right."
When The Church Age Started, Jesus Picked A Different Apostle And Gave Him A Different Gospel With Different Promises
Peter acknowledged that Paul was very different, had a different gospel, and that it caused a lot of people to wrestle with it to their “own destruction”.
October 13, 2017By Geoffrey Grider
It is from Paul that we understand the mystery of the saved believers in the Body of Christ, the mystery of the Church, the mystery of the Pretribulation Rapture, the mystery of Eternal Security, the Judgment Seat of Christ, the mystery of the the future restoration of the Jews in the time of Jacob’s trouble, and the list goes on and on.
Casual readers of the Bible who, starting in Matthew and ending in Revelation, see one story written for the Church, try desperately to make everything about the Church, and wind up in a mess. Paul commands Christians to look for divisions in the Bible, identify divisions in the Bible, and put the proper pieces in the proper places. These are the instructions God has for us in 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV).
“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.” Romans 16:25-27 (KJV)
Paul was different from the other apostles, and he preached a different gospel from the other apostles. He called it “my gospel”, and he was charged with teaching it first to the apostles and then to everyone else. Sound like heresy? Don’t panic, it’s Bible. Just a part of the Bible that no one ever told you about before. (At least not until Geoffrey Grider came along!)
(Full article here.)
What's the takeaway on all this? There are good, sound, well-qualified Bible teachers out there; you'll find the work of many of them right on this board. There are also many good sources for news which give you the truth; again, you'll find many of them here. Sure, Geoffrey Grider's sensationalist headings shout "READ ME!" but I'd suggest that - if you must look at his website - you skip over what he wrote and go directly to the link for the source article which he always includes. As for his "teachings," well...why listen to a Geoffrey Grider when you can listen to someone sound and genuinely knowledgable like Charlie Garrett or Andy Woods or Hal Lindsey or James Kaddis, among many others?
Like so many professing Christians who have blogs and/or YouTube channels, Mr. Grider thrives on sensationalism, as can be ascertained by simply looking at the headlines on his site. As for his "theology," well...here are just a few examples of some of the utter nonsense he teaches:
Pin the tail on the Antichrist...and twist Scripture while you're at it to prove you're right!
Does The King James Bible Reveal The Identity Of The Coming End Times Antichrist?
As Christians, we are commanded to wait and look for the Glorious Appearing of the Lord Jesus Christ in the clouds to rapture us up and out of here, and so we do. No where (sic) in Scripture does it command Christians to look for the Antichrist. But God, in His amazing mercy towards us, wants us to have as much information as possible as we battle the world, the flesh and the Devil. We are not ignorant of the Enemy’s devices, and knowing Scripture prepares us for battle. So using Paul’s clues, let’s take a ride through the Bible and see about this son of perdition.
“While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.” John 17:12 (KJV)
No surprise that our search leads us back to John, Paul and John are tag-team prophecy warriors who back each other up, and here we seeing Jesus talking about the son of perdition. It is the same son of perdition that Paul referenced, none other than Judas Iscariot, the Betrayer. But there’s more….
“Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.” John 13:26 (KJV)
Here we have Judas in the act of betrayal, and it is a stunning example of why we only use the King James Bible. Jesus is talking about handing a “sop” to someone, and then dipping it in a dish. Anyone who has ever spent time with Italian people who can cook know exactly what a sop is. My friend Andy’s mom used to make what Italians call “gravy”, or spaghetti sauce, and it would simmer on the stove for hours. When it was close to done, we would take a fresh piece of Italian bread and dip it in the pot, and we would “sop it up”. Delicious! Now do you see what a sop is? It is a piece of bread for dipping in sauce or olive oil. The NIV renders the sop of John 13:26 as “bread”, and in doing so, throws one of the biggest prophecy clues right out the window. Yes, a sop is a piece of bread – BUT – it is much more than that. Bread is just bread , but a sop is a clue.
S = Son | O = Of | P = Perdition. Bam! After 23 years of knowing this and teaching this to people it still sends chills down my spine. God is so good.
Now do you see why we say God has preserved His word in the KJV? But there’s more, we are not done yet.
“That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.” Acts 1:25 (KJV)
When Judas killed himself after the world’s greatest betrayal, he didn’t simply go to Hell, not at all. He went to his own, very special holding area that we see mentioned in Acts 1:25. One reason for this special place is because God is not done with him just yet. In the Time of Jacob’s Trouble, Judas is going to come back as the Antichrist. Why? Because Paul already told you he would in 2 Thessalonians, remember? “and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;“. In fact, lots of people make a reappearance. Moses and Elijah come back as the Two Witnesses, Judas comes back as the Antichrist, and of course, Jesus comes back as Himself. Yay! (Full article here.)
The title of this article says it all! A careful reading of the Bible (in your favorite translation, whatever it may be) will prove that there's are TWO wars of Gog and Magog, each with a different purpose and end result. In the one described in Ezekiel 38 a coalition of nations comes against Israel "to take a spoil," and 5/6 of them are killed by the hand of God, with the blood running as high as a horse's bridle. In the Gog and Magog war described in Rev. 20, Satan is released for a time, deceives the unbelievers of the Earth, and leads them in a battle to take Jerusalem, God's holy city. This time fire comes down from heaven and consumes the attackers, and Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire, never to be heard from again. A mess like this article is what you get when someone "thinks" he's a Bible scholar, but is actually quite ignorant. (For the record, I graduated seminary with a Master's in Theological Studies.)
The Battle Of Gog And Magog Cannot Take Place For A Minimum Of A Thousand And Seven Years From Today
According to Bible prophecy, the Battle of Gog and Magog takes places immediately after the Thousand Year Reign of King Jesus is finished on this earth.
(Full article here).
Then there's this hot mess. You need to be careful - he's very sly in this article... Yes,there are different promises for the Church and for Israel, but there is only ONE Gospel, that of Jesus Christ and Him crucified for the forgiveness of sin and risen from the dead. The four gospels were written to the Jews; the Church did not exist until Pentecost. Grider is another one who's going to have a lot to answer for come Judgment Day!
Does Geoffrey Grider teach Bible Truth? Yes, he does...but these three articles are only a sampling of his false teachings that are sprinkled throughout his website - there are others. (I can't find it right now, but in one article he asserted that at the rapture the saved believers were going to travel bilions and billons of miles through outer space on horses to get to heaven! 🤣) Keep in mind: 99% of rat poison is wholesome cornmeal; it's the 1% of arsenic that's the killer. Or as Charles Spurgeon said, "Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right."
When The Church Age Started, Jesus Picked A Different Apostle And Gave Him A Different Gospel With Different Promises
Peter acknowledged that Paul was very different, had a different gospel, and that it caused a lot of people to wrestle with it to their “own destruction”.
October 13, 2017By Geoffrey Grider
It is from Paul that we understand the mystery of the saved believers in the Body of Christ, the mystery of the Church, the mystery of the Pretribulation Rapture, the mystery of Eternal Security, the Judgment Seat of Christ, the mystery of the the future restoration of the Jews in the time of Jacob’s trouble, and the list goes on and on.
Casual readers of the Bible who, starting in Matthew and ending in Revelation, see one story written for the Church, try desperately to make everything about the Church, and wind up in a mess. Paul commands Christians to look for divisions in the Bible, identify divisions in the Bible, and put the proper pieces in the proper places. These are the instructions God has for us in 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV).
“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.” Romans 16:25-27 (KJV)
Paul was different from the other apostles, and he preached a different gospel from the other apostles. He called it “my gospel”, and he was charged with teaching it first to the apostles and then to everyone else. Sound like heresy? Don’t panic, it’s Bible. Just a part of the Bible that no one ever told you about before. (At least not until Geoffrey Grider came along!)
(Full article here.)
What's the takeaway on all this? There are good, sound, well-qualified Bible teachers out there; you'll find the work of many of them right on this board. There are also many good sources for news which give you the truth; again, you'll find many of them here. Sure, Geoffrey Grider's sensationalist headings shout "READ ME!" but I'd suggest that - if you must look at his website - you skip over what he wrote and go directly to the link for the source article which he always includes. As for his "teachings," well...why listen to a Geoffrey Grider when you can listen to someone sound and genuinely knowledgable like Charlie Garrett or Andy Woods or Hal Lindsey or James Kaddis, among many others?